[nabs-l] Internships

Mon Oct 6 01:24:43 UTC 2014

Personally I didn't bring it up at the first internship I had, but all
of the computers in the office were Macs, so I just used Voiceover.
Besides, because I was an intern, I was asked to simply bring my
computer to the office since I'd have my computer set up the way I
liked it, etc.
To be honest I wouldn't really mention it unless they say something
like "you might also be working with graphics", etc.
Then you should just point out that you'd be happy to help, but that
because you're blind you can't help with graphics--just an example but
it applies to anything like that.
And, if you need any software installed, don't talk about your
blindness because you need to make this sound totally natural.
I mean just mention it when you're talking to someone, or if you have
a reference person to call before the internship starts, go ahead and
just mention in that you need a scrreenreader because you're totally
blind.
I know this is a little unorthodox but you have to bring it up in a
way that sounds natural, like its just part of the conversation.
Also, if asked do say that you have a laptop that you could bring to
work, since its very handy that way because you have everything set up
to your liking already.
Oh, and, unless you have a working copy of JAWS, don't ask for it.
Meaning--unless you own a copy, or unless Rehab will give you a copy,
don't ask for JAWS--since its pricy that may not come across good.
My suggestion there would just be to ask for NVDA if possible.
Again, this is only if you don't already have a JAWS license.
Just my thoughts.

Jorge

On 10/5/14, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Good afternoon, Sofia,
>
> Absolutely bring up your blindness as off the bat as you can.
> Providing you regard it as a vibrant strand within the quilt which is
> all that is you, this won't be so hard. What if, say, the people in
> the program are counting on you to like, drive somewhere, or take
> photographs? also, even though they have all this legalese which
> claim not to be obligated to even ask, doesn't mean we, as blind
> people don't have the common decency to clue people in. 'cause
> remember, what do they say, blindness, and I am paraphrasing, is but
> a mere inconvenience.
> a  12:40 PM 8/3/2014, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l wrote:
>>The thing is my internship doesm't have an interview so it's my
>>choice when I want to bring it up.
>>
>>I know thatlegally they should take me if I'm qualified, but I don't
>>want to get accepted, bring up my visual impairment and go to a
>>hostile work environment. Would it be better to bring up the screem
>>reader beforehan and not wait until i have been accepted?
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 3, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Sofia,
>> >
>> > I am not quite sure how someone could not tell that I am blind in an
>> > interview considering the fact that I use a long white cane. And
>> > although I
>> > am not sure if this is the best practice or not, I actually
>> talked about how
>> > I use JAWS on the computer during my interview. Like you, I was
>> > concerned
>> > about how to go about installing a screen reader on the computer, so I
>> > thought I would be up front about this issue so I could make the
>> most out of
>> > my internship. Perhaps others do things differently, but this is
>> how I chose
>> > to handle this particular situation.
>> >
>> > Warm regards,
>> > Elizabeth
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Sofia Gallo via
>> > nabs-l
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:13 PM
>> > To: minh ha; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Internships
>> >
>> > Thanks all!
>> >
>> > It looks like I can instal my own version of Jaws on a company computer
>> > and
>> > reset it after or use my own laptop.
>> >
>> > I imagine you didn't say anything about being blind or needing
>> > accommodations until afterbeing accepted to the internship? :)
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:31 PM, minh ha via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've had various internships over the years that required heavy use of
>> >> a computer for research, writing, etc. My employers always allowed me
>> >> to use my own computer and they just connected me to their network so
>> >> I could access pertinent information. Last year during my sophomore
>> >> year of college, I had an internship with a social service non-profit
>> >> and my state agency provided a jaws key for me to put on 3 of the
>> >> office computers. I was working with confidential client information
>> >> at the time so it was necessary for me to use one of their computers.
>> >> Definitely check into your state agency to see if they will provide a
>> >> jaws key for you to use temporarily during your internship. Otherwise,
>> >> I don't think it would be a huge deal for  you to use your own laptop
>> >> if your supervisor is ok with it.
>> >>
>> >> Minh
>> >>
>> >>> On 8/3/14, Cody Bair via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>> I have also had two summer jobs in colege. Since I had 3
>> >>> authorizations of Jaws I authorized the software on both of my work
>> >>> computers which worked excellent for me as their was no out of pocket
>> >>> cost for my employer and I had full use of Jaws.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cody
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Aug 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l
>> >>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Sofia,
>> >>>> Congrats on the internship!
>> >>>> I had three different summer jobs in high school and college that
>> >>>> involved computers. Each timeI used JAWS in demo mode; I don't think
>> >>>> the USB's existed yet. It was no problem using JAWS in demo mode.
>> >>>> Also, if you have JAWS on your home computer, I think you can
>> >>>> install a full version on up to three computers. I recently
>> >>>> installed my full JAWS license on my new work computer and I just
>> >>>> called Freedom Scientific and asked them to reset my license (since
>> >>>> I had formerly run it on an old laptop I no longer use) and they did
>> >>>> without any trouble or additional cost.
>> >>>> Of course you could also try NVDA.
>> >>>> Sorry I don't know the answer to your USB question.
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>> Arielle
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 8/2/14, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>>>> It would be a political/policy internship.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It sounds like a USB would be the best option, but after reading
>> >>>>> the Jaws website, it seems like the USB version doesn't work if
>> >>>>> Jaws is not already installed on the computer and that it's purpose
>> >>>>> is to apply your preferred settings to jaws, and not to use Jaws on
>> >>>>> a computer that doesn't have Jaws.
>> >>>>> Someone correct me if I'm wrong:)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Derek Manners
>> >>>>>> <dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Depending on your place, your machine is the best bet or getting
>> >>>>>> permission to use a USB.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> May I ask what type of intership?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Sofia Gallo via nabs-l
>> >>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the replies.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Jaws in demo mode is a pain, but getting the whole software to
>> >>>>>>> use it for
>> >>>>>>> 2 months doesn't sound very reasonable.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I could always take my laptop and use that.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I have options, but I was wondering what experiences others have
>> >>>>>>> had regarding assistive technology and internships. What
>> >>>>>>> arrangements have others made?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the input!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2014, at 12:12 AM, Joseph Hudson
>> >>>>>>>> <jhud7789 at outlook.com>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi, I think before I even think about getting a job like that, I
>> >>>>>>>> would think about what kind of software that would be putting on
>> >>>>>>>> that Machine whether it be MBVA or John's? Because if they're
>> >>>>>>>> putting John's on there and it's all going to be a will to run
>> >>>>>>>> in demo mode and my computer job is extensive I probably
>> >>>>>>>> wouldn't deal to get much done in a day. The reason why I say
>> >>>>>>>> that is because if I had to restart my computer every
>> >>>>>>>> 40 minutes or restart John, every 40 minutes Alakaina get tiring
>> >>>>>>>> and slowing on my process. So possible, talk to the person or
>> >>>>>>>> Company, About getting the real version. Are you free later that
>> >>>>>>>> you will be using.
>> >>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>> hope this helps and if you having me other questions do not
>> >>>>>>>> hesitate to
>> >>>>>>>> contact me off off list        n Aug 2, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Sofia
>> >>>>>>>> Gallo
>> >>>>>>>> via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Hello
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Has anyone had an internship or short-term job (such as a
>> >>>>>>>>> summer
>> >>>>>>>>> job)
>> >>>>>>>>> that required extensive computer use (such as browsing the
>> >>>>>>>>> internet, using Word and other basic programs)? How did this
>> >>>>>>>>> work out in terms of using assistive technology such as screen
>> >>>>>>>>> readers like Jaws? Did you arrange to use your own computer,
>> >>>>>>>>> use the demo mode of a software or carry a USB version of the
>> >>>>>>>>> software?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I'm just wondering what experiences anyone has had using
>> >>>>>>>>> assistive technology when the job is only short-term since
>> >>>>>>>>> adjusting company computers with software may not be practical.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>>>>>>
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