[nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Thu Sep 11 02:01:31 UTC 2014


What doesn't bother you, discrimination or your teacher's request? I
personally would welcome an opportunity to speak to the class about
blindness and the discrimination we must at times face, as this may prevent
such discrimination in the future. However, I think discrimination is
something about which we must be vigilant. If we let all discrimination pass
without polite but firm objection, I believe there can be no chance of
solving the problem.

Chris

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From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marissa Tejeda
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?


I've been asked, by a teacher, how I felt about discrimination in general.
Well, it was a thing in passing.  She asked if she could have students talk
to me for extra credit, (to make it more interesting), about discrimination.
Now, I think about it at times, and it doesn't bother me.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Wasif, Zunaira via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>, "National Association of
BlindStudents mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2014
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

I agree.  The brain is literally bombarded with visual stimuli in the form
of faces.  I believe that this vast amount of data leads to detailed
discrimination among faces.  As blind people, we are not bombarded with
nearly the same amount of tactile information in regards to faces;
therefore, most of us to not have the 
necessary data to develop detailed   tactile discrimination in 
this area.

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From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
Silverman via nabs-l
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 3:40 PM
To: Alana Leonhardy; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

Absolute myth.  Human brains are programmed to recognize faces visually.
The details that people recognize visually cannot be easily perceived by
touch.  To me all faces feel the same, except maybe whether or not the
person has facial hair.  It's ridiculous to think that blind people should
feel faces to recognize people or gain information about what they look like
visually.
I do have mental images of what my close family and friends look like, but
that has more to do with body shape, height and weight info that I get from
hugging them not feeling their faces.  Even those mental images are pretty
vague.  The best way I can tell people apart is by their voice.
Arielle

On 9/8/14, Alana Leonhardy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
 There's something very personal about putting your hands on someone  else's
face.  I have never had the desire to do so, and haven't met a  blind person
who has.  I have, however, encountered sighted strangers  who thought I was
odd for not warning to touch them.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 8, 2014, at 11:48, justin williams via nabs-l  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 wrote:

 I don't do his often except with a woman; not even with my parents.
 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl  Martin
Adam via nabs-l
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:46 PM
 To: Marissa Tejeda; National Association of Blind Students mailing  list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

 I haven't done this either--except with people I'm dating and like my
parents.  It does seem to be a common stereotype and something that  happens
in a lot of literature and movies.
 Perhaps some people who went blind later in life and think knowing  what
people's faces are like is important do this?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Marissa Tejeda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: Nabsl <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 05:25:08 -0700
 Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling faces: a myth or true?

 Hi guys,

 So, for a long time I've been want to know this, but never got around  to
asking.  I, personally, don't feel faces to know what people look like.
 Do
 people really feel faces? How can it give someone a picture if they  feel
the face? Is this just a movie and a myth, or reality and true?

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