[nabs-l] Why Are You a Member of the NFB?

Karl Martin Adam kmaent1 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 20 17:00:31 UTC 2015


Hi Elizabeth, I understand why you might want to be vague about 
exactly what your negative experiences have been, but this makes 
it difficult for any of us to give you constructive answers.  
Without knowing what problems you've had and how they came about, 
we can't tell you what we've done differently or point out that 
we've interacted with different people or realize that we 
evaluate certain things as being less negative or anything like 
that.  At least in my case, one difference in our experience is 
probably that I've never had a need or desire to contact the 
president of the organization or anyone that powerful and busy.  
My interactions have been mostly with ordinary members, who have 
in the vast majority of cases been open and welcoming.  I'm also 
primarily a member because I support the NFB's advocacy goals, 
not because I'm looking for self-affirmation from leadership.  
That being said, when I was young, I was involved in the local 
mentoring program led by Allan Harris where I learned Braille and 
my basic mobility skills, which was overwhelmingly a positive 
experience.  As Arielle said, it is very sad that you, and 
others, have had negative experiences, and we should all work to 
reduce those as much as possible.  I hope that you can feel 
comfortable enough to talk about exactly what problems you've 
had, so that people can try to fix them.  Of course, I can think 
of many reasons you might not want to do that, so please don't 
feel pressured in any way.

Best,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'Manners, Derek'" <dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu>,"'National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:47:32 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Why Are You a Member of the NFB?

Hello Justin,

Thank you for sharing your experience with the National 
Federation of the
Blind. However, I am honestly wondering if we are talking about 
the same
organization here as my overall experience with the National 
Federation of
the Blind is absolutely nothing like what you have described in 
this email.
What do you believe accounts for these differences? What makes 
your overall
experience so positive while my overall experience has been so 
negative? Why
have you been able to find encouraging words from people who 
truly seem to
care about you while I have mostly received criticism and 
rejection from
peple who do not seem to care all that much about me? I have a 
lot more
questions, but I am honestly not sure which ones would be 
appropriate to
post on such a public email list.

And for those of you who believe my negative experience with the 
National
Federation of the Blind simply stems from a bad interaction with 
leaders on
a local level, I simply do not agree with you. My negative 
experience with
the National Federation of the Blind appears to occur at all 
levels of the
organization. Whether it be my first interaction with an NFB 
board member,
an email exchange with the new President of the NFB, interactions 
with the
NABS board, or interactions with state affiliate and local 
chapter leaders,
I would say that most of these interactions are nothing like what 
you have
described in your email.

And so I am just wondering, and I have been wondering this for 
quite some
time now, why are there such drastic differences between what I 
have
experienced as a member of the National Federation of the Blind 
and what
others have experienced as members of the National Federation of 
the Blind?
I honestly feel as though I have been sold a lot of empty 
promises and false
advertising because for me the NFB has never really been anything 
that
anyone has ever told me it would be. Hopefully, I have framed my 
questions
in such a way that they elicit a constructive positive dialog 
rather than
offend anyone who believes my overall experience with the 
National
Federation of the Blind could possibly be anything less than 
positive.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Manners, Derek
via nabs-l
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 11:03 PM
To: Justin Salisbury; National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Why Are You a Member of the NFB?

I would add to Justin's words and say that the main reason I 
chose the
National Federation of the Blind over the ACB is that the NFB 
tries to make
the word accessible for blind people and expects us to be a part 
of it.
For example, in Massachusetts, our state treasurer (a blind 
Harvard
graduate) was the first blind teacher in America in large part 
due to
pressure and advocacy from the NFB.  The NFB of MA pushed for 
blind people
to be able to buy life insurance for the same price as sighted 
people and
not to be discriminated against due to our disability.  The NFB 
of MA also
pushed to allow blind people to serve on juries.  Can you imagine 
a world in
which we could not sit on juries despite being lawyers, 
scientists,
teachers, etc.?  We are continuing to make strides in accessible 
voting,
accessible ATMs, accessible taxis.  However, these efforts were 
started by
the NFB.  The reason Apple and iTunes are so accessible is 
because of
lawsuits by the NFB.

Those efforts of the past have made the world a better place for 
blind
people.  If our generation has as much success, the world will be 
that much
closer to full accessibility and that is why I'm with the NFB.

I understand that some states are better than others and that it 
can be very
frustrating when you don't feel like you can work with the people 
in your
state.  I'd be happy to talk to you off list about those issues 
as I had a
similar issue in Massachusetts when I first joined.  Our state 
president at
the time was overwhelmed by the job and did not respond to me for 
months at
a time.

Best Wishes
Derek Manners

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Justin Salisbury via nabs-l <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Dear Elizabeth,

 Thank you for catalyzing this discussion. I'm going to reply 
with my
 knee-jerk answers and may follow up later if more ideas develop. 
I
 think the answer that comes by reflex can be the most authentic.

 Why do you choose to be a member of the National Federation of 
the Blind?
 The National Federation of the Blind has created so many 
opportunities
 for me and changed the world before I was even born. When I 
became a
 blind person in 2005, the society that I faced was much better 
because
 of the 65 years of work of the National Federation of the Blind. 
I
 believe it is my duty to the people who came before me (people I 
will
 never meet) and to those blind people of the future to carry the 
baton
 and run my leg of the race. I actually keep a quote from Dr.
 Jernigan's speech about climbing the stairs to freedom in my 
email
signature. You can read it if you like.
 I also have found so many mentors through the Federation who 
have
 changed my life by changing how I look at it. Before I found the
 Federation, I used to wield blindness as a source of pity to get
 scholarship money and to impress news reporters with the fact 
that I
 would get out of bed every morning. At my first NFB event, a 
state
 convention where I was a scholarship winner, I was trying to 
complain
 about how hard science was as a blind person. Three blind people
 surrounded me and started encouraging me, telling me that the
 Federation would help me get through it. They were a chemist, a 
civil
 engineer, and an environmental scientist. I wanted pity, but 
they
 wouldn't let me give up on myself. Still today, we have 50,000 
blind
 people who won't accept low expectations for blind people. We 
have
 training centers that give people their lives back-or give them 
the lives
they never had but always deserved. I can't not be  a part of 
that.

 If you believe your experience with the National Federation of 
the
 blind is a positive one, what do you believe are the key factors 
that
 you believe makes your experience positive rather than negative?

 1. Good Mentoring
 2. Good Blind Role Models
 3. Learning about leadership
 4. Helping other people by empowering them 5. Nourishment in the
 philosophy that equips me to face the low expectations in 
society and
 do it effectively 6. Friendship with a lot of great people 7. 
Let's
 not forget all the fun! Things like room parties at national
 convention, pie-in-the-face fundraisers, latin dancing, you name 
it!

 And finally, what do you believe are the current strengths of 
the
 National Federation of the Blind as it looks into the future?

 1. Relationship-oriented leadership: our personal relationships 
in our
 movement help carry us through the tough times and are still fun 
in
 the good times 2. Focus on a common goal: We're all fighting for 
the
 same thing.
 3. Giving each other second chances: For example, I made some 
pretty
 bad mistakes in my campaign for NABS President, and a lot of the 
NABS
 members and leaders-and National Federation of the Blind members 
and
 leaders-could have chosen to never let me live those down. The 
totem
 animal in my Native American name is the Phoenix, which can 
burst into
 flame and be reborn any time it wants to reinvent itself. I have 
been
 able to reinvent myself, but a necessary part of that is others'
 willingness to let me. I bring this up because, no matter what 
it is
 that people have on you or against you, if they are truly 
leaders in
 our movement, they will give you a chance to reinvent yourself. 
It's
 all about us getting to the same common goals, right?
 4. We have a rock-solid understanding of something that is true. 
The
 National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
 characterist that defines you or your future. Every day, we 
raise the
 expectations of blind people, because low expectations create
 obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the 
life
 you want; blindness is not what holds you back.

 With much love for my Federation family,

 Justin Salisbury

 Justin Salisbury - Running Thunder Phoenix Graduate Student
 Professional Development and Research Institute on Blindness 
Louisiana
 Tech University
 Email: jms132 at latech.edu
 Twitter: @SalisburyJustin

 But, of course, we will not fail. We will continue to climb. Our
 heritage demands it; our faith confirms it; our humanity 
requires it.
 Whatever the sacrifice, we will make it. Whatever the price, we 
will
 pay it. Seen from this perspective, the hostility and backlash 
(the
 challenges and
 confrontations) are hardly worth noticing. They are only an 
irritant.
 My brothers and my sisters, the future is ours. Come! Join me on 
the
 stairs, and we will finish the journey.
 - Dr. Kenneth Jernigan

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Elizabeth
 Mohnke via nabs-l
 Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:52 PM
 To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
 Subject: [nabs-l] Why Are You a Member of the NFB?

 Hello All,

 It appears to me that I have started to become a rather 
disheartened
 member of the NFB. Although, I am sure some of you would argue 
that I
 am already there. Anyway, as I try to work through the questions 
that
 seem to keep rumbling through my mind, I thought I would ask a 
few
 questions to spur on some discussion on this email list.

 Why do you choose to be a member of the National Federation of 
the Blind?
 If you believe your experience with the National Federation of 
the
 blind is a positive one, what do you believe are the key factors 
that
 you believe makes your experience positive rather than negative? 
And
 finally, what do you believe are the current strengths of the 
National
 Federation of the Blind as it looks into the future?

 Please feel free to answer any or all of the questions, or any 
other
 question related to these ones. If you feel as though you relate 
more
 to being a member of the National Association of Blind Students 
rather
 than the National Federation of the Blind as a whole, you can 
answer
 these questions from this point of view as well.

 I look forward to hearing your responses.

 Warm regards,
 Elizabeth

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