[nabs-l] Regarding that Alex Kaiser guy's previous post this morning

Tue Nov 17 16:06:41 UTC 2015

If we are speaking about maturity and proper etiquette on a public
forum, why are messages blasting his character, questionable or not
allowed to go to the list? David Andrews and Arielle took appropriate
actions to ban him, so can we call it quits and move on?

Thanks,
Minh

On 11/17/15, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Aside from any issues of transgressions on the list in the past, the
> national nabs list is not necessarily even the best place to send
> specific suggestions for a particular state division anyway.  If what
> you're saying applies to all divisions then yes, but I do believe New
> Jersey's division has a list serve of its own, and that it would make
> more sense and have a better chance of reaching the board of that
> particular division if that list was used propperly by the student in
> question.  It would be like blasting something over NFBnet's
> announcement list with something specifically geared towards an
> affiliate president or board.  I don't think any of the lists are
> frivolous, and lists for those smaller state divisions are available
> for just these kinds of purposes.
>
> On 11/17/15, Daniel Romero via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> This Alex character has the history of creating various email and
>> Facebook
>> accounts to harass individuals. He will consistently use a new email to
>> get
>> a new Facebook account to add the people who will add him or who have
>> blocked him on other accounts. He's super immature, has no respect for
>> anyone and I think the choices of him getting band were made properly. He
>> doesn't need to be around. That's just the truth.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sami and all,
>>> I agree with you that Alex's message yesterday was legitimate.
>>> However, over the last four or five years, Alex has periodically
>>> posted mass emails to all of the NFBNet and ACB lists and sometimes
>>> has sent the same message repeatedly over several hours. Some of his
>>> email blasts on our NFB lists have been about ACB-related organizing.
>>> It also appears that his message yesterday was simultaneously sent
>>> from about fifteen different email addresses of his. I am not
>>> concerned about the content of the message he posted yesterday, but it
>>> is concerning that Dave has asked him to leave in the past and he
>>> continues to re-subscribe under different email addresses. If Alex
>>> wants to subscribe to our list under just one email address and post
>>> just one message at a time, I would be OK with that.
>>> Best,
>>> Arielle Silverman, list moderator
>>>
>>>> On 11/16/15, Sami Osborne via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm just wondering about the reply that Chris posted this morning
>>>> to a thread by Alexander Scott Kaiser regarding improving the New
>>>> Jersey Association of Blind students.  Chris, I don't see how
>>>> that message was spam? I did find this guy's writing style and
>>>> suggestions extremely odd, but other than that, he was proposing
>>>> something completely legitimate, as the message was perfect for
>>>> the list since it not only had to do with blindness, but about an
>>>> organization for blind students, which is exactly what
>>>> discussions on here should be about.  My apologies for creating a
>>>> new thread instead of replying to the old one, but I have deleted
>>>> the last thread.  Also, please don't think that I'm suggesting
>>>> that Alex should be unbanned or even dhcending hm; I barely know
>>>> him, although I believe he is in my Skype contacts list.  I'm not
>>>> saying that David Andrews didn't take the appropriate actions
>>>> against him, I am simply curious as to why the moderators
>>>> consider the email spam.  I hope that disciplinary action will
>>>> not be taken against me for just being curious.
>>>>
>>>> Hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Sami
>>>>
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> Kaiti Shelton
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> Secretary, The National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts
> Division 2015-2016
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