[nabs-l] Schools For The Blind vs Public Schools
Shawn Abraham
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Sun Feb 7 23:17:11 UTC 2016
I forgot all about aids, because I stopped having one my freshmen
year. And I do agree that though we can make generalizations
that public school is better, ultimately its about your personal
situation.
Out of curiosity, what kinds of things do your aids help you
with, since I see so many high schoolers with them?
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From: Kayla James via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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Yes, Loren, aides can be a downfall, but they are in such short
supply
with all of the overflow in my state, that you are out there on
your
own. Which is what happened my senior year.
Plus, there's a lot of itinerant work. And very little time, but
you're right about the aides. And with blind schools (at least
mine)
I've gone to prom at least three times.:)
On 2/7/16, Loren Wakefield via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
So is that why a blind student must be accompanied by an aide in
the public
schools? I received a damn good education at Iowa Braille and
Sight Saving
School. At the time, it was far superior to what I would have
received in
my own town.
So in my humble opinion, it comes down to what works best for
the
individual
student. Since leaving IBSSS, I have acquired a college
education, a Wife,
kids, and grandkids, along with many other things that has made
life
extremely interesting.
I have yet to see kids coming out of public schools that are any
closer to
being prepared for life than I was.
Having said this, I do believe it should be a choice. One
should not be
forced to attend one or the other. If the public school setting
works
better for you, than get in there and kick butt and get all you
can. If
the
state school works better for you, then do the same. Just
remember, no
school system is perfect.
Loren
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I honestly think that Blind Schools shelter students, and don't
prepare
them
for the real world. I went to public school until my 11th grade
year of
school, and I'm regretting even going to a blind school.
The academics is way behind for high school. Like some have
said, I feel
like blind schools baby and give students everything without
questions
asked, therefore they expect tmhe sighted world to do the same.
How can
one
develop self advocacy skills when they are handed everything
without having
to fight for it?
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 6, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Kayla James via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
wrote:
Lol. I'm not the only one who gets irritated? Boss awesome!
On 2/6/16, Doug Oliver via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Danielle I agree with you I have had people do the "your so
amazing"
comments too and it irritated me too I know what that's like.
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Schools For The Blind vs Public Schools
As someone who has only been to public school, I am extremely
greatful that my education was in this setting. Although it was
challenging at times, I'm glad I was in "the real world" from
the
beginning. Though most of my work was available, accessibility
challenges were always an unfortunate but unavoidable part of
life I
learned to deal with long ago. Most people viewed me as "that
blind
girl", but honestly, this is how it usually is as a minority. A
similar hierarchy exists among blind people as it does in your
average school environment. I'm not an overly social person, so
it
doesn't make a huge difference to me--I don't deal with people
who
have a superiority complex and I'm perfectly happy with just a
few
close
friends. The "your so amazing"
comments irritate me to no end and I actually tend to discredit
compliments as products of low expectations, so I'm not sure the
sense of entitlement happens all that often. Most importantly
though, I needed to be in an academically challenging
environment
that I'm not sure is always available in a residential school
for
the blind. For example, how many AP science classes would be
available in one of these schools?
Danielle
On 2/6/16, Vejas Vasiliauskas via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
I feel like as a public school student and you are blind, lots
of
people are amazed by you and you may get a false sense of
entitlement. Particularly in elementary school 'I'm sure a lot
of
people can relate to th', you get paired with friends who are
there
to help you at lunch and recess--as you get older this of course
doesn't happen, and it can be a shock to some people.
I can say now that as a student at LCB I am not "The Blind Kid",
and there are groups here, but friends choose each other based
on
much more meaningful reasons.
Vejas
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From someone who has done both, there isn't a whole lot of
difference.
In public school, you will be the "blind" kid, new, and people
will
be scared of you, but it helps you deal more with the real world
where you are a minority in a sense. Residential blind schools
are
like public schools, you'll be the "blind" kid there, too, and
depending on the hierarchy, because let's face it there is one,
that can be good or bad.
The popular kids are usually visually impaired, athletic,
pretty,
you name it. Totals are in on it, too. The pros: you are
around
your own set, if you will.
On 2/6/16, Christina Moore via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
I believe both settings have thier benefits and disadvantages.
I attended a school for the blind from 2-4 grade and was a
residental student. I did not mind in any not being at home and
being at the school for the blind allowed me to be around other
kids, advance my braille skills, learn some other necessary
skills
and gain self-confidence I would not otherwise have had.
Once I entered public school in fifth grade it waws a hurtle for
me
to do math and to accept being in a public school because my
whole
world was different. My school was learning how to help me as
they
were going and that was challenging at time. It was not thier
fault, but it was still challenging. I did well though and am
in
college now.
I believe both experiences have their advantages and
disadvantages.
For instance, there is more self-advocacy, need to prove
yourself
to classmates Etc. in a school that is public versus a school
that
catters to blindness. Everyone in my opinion should have an
experience of starting out in a school for the blind in some way
and then they should be transitioned into a public school where
they finish thier education.
Just my thoughts.
On 2/6/16, jessica hodges via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
I believe schools for the blind can have some benefits. If you
go
there as a residential student, depending on the school, and the
quality of education, you can get a lot of skills that can serve
you very well in life after graduation, if you keep practicing
them. However, I believe that a student should also have some
public school exposure, to teach self advicasy, as well as how
to
cope when things when all materials and experiences are not
accessible, and optimized for blindness.
The issue
that I find with blind schools is that they basically hand the
students the world on a silver platter. They don't have to
fight
for anything, make due with anything that isn't perfectly
accessible, and so have no exposure in how to deal with things
in
the "real world," outside the sphere of the blind school. I
went
to a blind school from my third to sixth grade year, and was
home
schooled through seventh grade, so I struggled integrating back
into the school system, particularly in math, trying to adapt to
a
visually taught class and things. I also didn't stay at the
school, so I did not learn half of the skills that I could have.
In conclusion, I believe it is good to give students
experience in both public, and blind school settings.
Hope this helps.
Jessica
On 2/6/2016 4:42 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l wrote:
Good evening Students,
I have a question for all of you. What are the advantages and
disadvantages of attending a residential school for the blind vs
a
public school? I could not handle being away from my family
during
the week. As a toddler I attended the Early Intervention
program
at the Perkins School For The Blind. I'd like to hear your
thoughts on this topic.
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