[nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice

Sat Jan 30 03:16:18 UTC 2016

Evening, Elizabeth,

Yes, and I was not suggesting it might. But, if you have someone to 
look over your shoulder as you are typing wherein, they could tell 
you realtime when you've misstypped? I don't know. Take it or leave it.
At 06:37 PM 1/29/2016, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Simply because this suggestion works for some does not mean it will work for
>all. I have a hard enough time typing with the use of a screen reader, I
>cannot imagine how horrible my typing would be without the use of a screen
>reader.
>
>Elizabeth
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
>via nabs-l
>Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 9:32 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>;
>National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>Cc: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice
>
>Evening, List,
>
>That is a good suggestion~! 'smatter of cfact, at times I was editing my
>writing with sighted student writing tutors, I used the in class computers
>in exactly that manner. And, it works well.
>CarAt 04:02 PM 1/29/2016, Jamie Principato via nabs-l wrote:
> >Another option would be to type your responses without JAWS, and have a
> >scribe or reader read it back to you and help you correct typos and
> >errors it's still your independent work, but you'd have a reader do the
> >job of JAWS until the school gets the computers with jaws fixed.
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 29, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Jamie,
> > >
> > > How can you assume the disabilities office would have a tape
> > > recorder? As far as I can tell, the disabilities office does not have
>much of anything.
> > >
> > > And if I have a difficult time using the screen reader voice that I
> > > have been using for years, I do not believe I would be able to learn
> > how to use a
> > > new voice that I simply cannot understand.
> > >
> > > I am sorry if you do not understand or believe me. And I am even
> > > more sorry that I posted my question about how to take my exam on this
>email list.
> > > Having everyone jump down my throat about not being able to attend
> > > an NFB training center or not having perfect Braille skills was
> > definitely not what
> > > I needed today. It looks as though the positive support of the NFB
> > > is for everyone else besides me.
> > >
> > > Elizabeth.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie
> > > Principato via nabs-l
> > > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:31 PM
> > > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> > > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > > Cc: Jamie Principato <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some
> > > Advice
> > >
> > > The disability office probably has a tape recorder. Also, if you
> > > don't understand a speech synthesizer, practice actually does help
> > > with
> > that. It's
> > > just like how toddlers don't understand grown up speech until
> > > they've listened to it a lot. A big part of it is to not throw ideas
> > > out with an "I can't" or "I'll never be able to" right off the bat.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> > >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello All,,
> > >>
> > >> If I cannot understand the voice from NVDA then what good is it
> > >> going to be for me to practice using it? No amount of practice is
> > >> going to change this for me.
> > >>
> > >> The only recording device I have is a Victor Stream. So how exactly
> > >> would this option work for me? It would seem to me the only way to
> > >> allow my professor to listen to my answers would be to give her my
> > >> victor stream. I would not feel comfortable doing this because I
> > >> have all my reading materials on it. And since the victor stream
> > >> has its own special recording format, I cannot just simply save a
> > >> copy of the recording and send it to my professor.
> > >>
> > >> It seems as though there would be too many logistics for this option.
> > >> And I have absolutely no idea if the disabilities office would
> > >> allow such an accommodation. The disabilities office seems to be
> > >> rather controlling in what it is willing to approve of as an
>accommodation.
> > >>
> > >> Elizabeth
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Mikayla Gephart [mailto:mikgephart at icloud.com]
> > >> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 5:13 PM
> > >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> > >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some
> > >> Advice
> > >>
> > >> Elizabeth, I understand some of the frustration. We are not at all
> > >> implying that a training center would solve all your problems. How
> > >> many of our members have left a training center, only to still need
> > >> help with their colleges? could you practice with NVDA from
> > >> wherever you are emailing right now? The more you practice, the better.
> > >> Blindness and health problems do not have to stop you from living
> > >> the life
> > > y want.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPad
> > >>
> > >>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> > >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello All,
> > >>>
> > >>> I honestly wish I had never posted my email to this email list. I
> > >>> really
> > >> hate the fact that it just seems like all you are wanting to do is
> > >> tell me that an NFB training center is somehow going to solve all
> > >> the problems in my life. Even if I could ever go to an NFB training
> > >> center, I will probably never gain the Braille skills necessary to
> > >> be able to use them in a testing situation.
> > >>>
> > >>> I have never used a smart phone before, so this option would not
> > >>> work for
> > >> me. There is absolutely no way I would be able to learn how to use
> > >> it good enough to use for a test that is in two weeks. I am already
> > >> trying to catch up in this class after being sick, so I am not
> > >> looking to add anything more to my plate than what is already on it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Using NVDA sounds like a good option, but again, I have never used
> > >>> it
> > >> before, and I cannot understand the voice that comes with it . So I
> > >> am not quite sure how this option would work for me.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am sorry that I am not able to fight my college and the
> > >>> vocational
> > >> rehabilitation all on my own. The Client Assistant Program does not
> > >> do much of anything here. And no one in the NFB has never really
> > >> been willing to help me either. All I wanted to do was to find a
> > >> way to pass this class. But it looks as though I simply do not have
> > >> the support, resources, and capacity to do the things I wanted to
> > >> be able to
> > > do before my accident.
> > >>>
> > >>> I should have never signed up to take this class. I really did not
> > >>> have
> > >> the money to pay for it in the first place, and right now it just
> > >> feels like this was only a waste of my money. And I should just
> > >> learn that I am never going to be the same person that I was before my
>accident.
> > >>>
> > >>> Elizabeth
> > >>>
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