[nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice

Jamie Principato blackbyrdfly at gmail.com
Sat Jan 30 03:18:25 UTC 2016 

Ok. Why are you getting defensive and shooting people down for offering you suggestions? Isn't that what you asked for? Be an active part of the problem solving process. Help us understand your strengths and weaknesses better so we can offer more ideas. Another is to talk to your professor about an oral exam, either on a recording evict or in her office. Yet another is to have your scribe simply start the audio recorder that is built into windows for you so you can record your answers, then stop it while you think about the next question or when ever you're finished. Then you just save that file for your teacher. You're probably going to accuse me of assuming your disability services office would do that. But instead, why not ask them first of they will. 

-Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Simply because this suggestion works for some does not mean it will work for
> all. I have a hard enough time typing with the use of a screen reader, I
> cannot imagine how horrible my typing would be without the use of a screen
> reader.
> 
> Elizabeth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 9:32 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>;
> National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some Advice
> 
> Evening, List,
> 
> That is a good suggestion~! 'smatter of cfact, at times I was editing my
> writing with sighted student writing tutors, I used the in class computers
> in exactly that manner. And, it works well.
> CarAt 04:02 PM 1/29/2016, Jamie Principato via nabs-l wrote:
>> Another option would be to type your responses without JAWS, and have a 
>> scribe or reader read it back to you and help you correct typos and 
>> errors it's still your independent work, but you'd have a reader do the 
>> job of JAWS until the school gets the computers with jaws fixed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Jamie,
>>> 
>>> How can you assume the disabilities office would have a tape 
>>> recorder? As far as I can tell, the disabilities office does not have
> much of anything.
>>> 
>>> And if I have a difficult time using the screen reader voice that I 
>>> have been using for years, I do not believe I would be able to learn
>> how to use a
>>> new voice that I simply cannot understand.
>>> 
>>> I am sorry if you do not understand or believe me. And I am even 
>>> more sorry that I posted my question about how to take my exam on this
> email list.
>>> Having everyone jump down my throat about not being able to attend 
>>> an NFB training center or not having perfect Braille skills was
>> definitely not what
>>> I needed today. It looks as though the positive support of the NFB 
>>> is for everyone else besides me.
>>> 
>>> Elizabeth.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie 
>>> Principato via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:31 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Jamie Principato <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some 
>>> Advice
>>> 
>>> The disability office probably has a tape recorder. Also, if you 
>>> don't understand a speech synthesizer, practice actually does help 
>>> with
>> that. It's
>>> just like how toddlers don't understand grown up speech until 
>>> they've listened to it a lot. A big part of it is to not throw ideas 
>>> out with an "I can't" or "I'll never be able to" right off the bat.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,,
>>>> 
>>>> If I cannot understand the voice from NVDA then what good is it 
>>>> going to be for me to practice using it? No amount of practice is 
>>>> going to change this for me.
>>>> 
>>>> The only recording device I have is a Victor Stream. So how exactly 
>>>> would this option work for me? It would seem to me the only way to 
>>>> allow my professor to listen to my answers would be to give her my 
>>>> victor stream. I would not feel comfortable doing this because I 
>>>> have all my reading materials on it. And since the victor stream 
>>>> has its own special recording format, I cannot just simply save a 
>>>> copy of the recording and send it to my professor.
>>>> 
>>>> It seems as though there would be too many logistics for this option.
>>>> And I have absolutely no idea if the disabilities office would 
>>>> allow such an accommodation. The disabilities office seems to be 
>>>> rather controlling in what it is willing to approve of as an
> accommodation.
>>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mikayla Gephart [mailto:mikgephart at icloud.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 5:13 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] A Struggling Blind Student Looking for Some 
>>>> Advice
>>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth, I understand some of the frustration. We are not at all 
>>>> implying that a training center would solve all your problems. How 
>>>> many of our members have left a training center, only to still need 
>>>> help with their colleges? could you practice with NVDA from 
>>>> wherever you are emailing right now? The more you practice, the better.
>>>> Blindness and health problems do not have to stop you from living 
>>>> the life
>>> y want.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I honestly wish I had never posted my email to this email list. I 
>>>>> really
>>>> hate the fact that it just seems like all you are wanting to do is 
>>>> tell me that an NFB training center is somehow going to solve all 
>>>> the problems in my life. Even if I could ever go to an NFB training 
>>>> center, I will probably never gain the Braille skills necessary to 
>>>> be able to use them in a testing situation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have never used a smart phone before, so this option would not 
>>>>> work for
>>>> me. There is absolutely no way I would be able to learn how to use 
>>>> it good enough to use for a test that is in two weeks. I am already 
>>>> trying to catch up in this class after being sick, so I am not 
>>>> looking to add anything more to my plate than what is already on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using NVDA sounds like a good option, but again, I have never used 
>>>>> it
>>>> before, and I cannot understand the voice that comes with it . So I 
>>>> am not quite sure how this option would work for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am sorry that I am not able to fight my college and the 
>>>>> vocational
>>>> rehabilitation all on my own. The Client Assistant Program does not 
>>>> do much of anything here. And no one in the NFB has never really 
>>>> been willing to help me either. All I wanted to do was to find a 
>>>> way to pass this class. But it looks as though I simply do not have 
>>>> the support, resources, and capacity to do the things I wanted to 
>>>> be able to
>>> do before my accident.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I should have never signed up to take this class. I really did not 
>>>>> have
>>>> the money to pay for it in the first place, and right now it just 
>>>> feels like this was only a waste of my money. And I should just 
>>>> learn that I am never going to be the same person that I was before my
> accident.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>> 
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