[nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille

David Thomas david.thomas at davidthetechguy.com
Fri Jul 8 00:24:51 UTC 2016


Hello,
You actually don't need a hardware upgrade to update the version of
Android on the device.

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Hi Katie,

It is possible to do everything with the smartcase and not use the screen,
though all the humanware reps at convention claim to exclusively use the
touch screen.  I didn't have the 20 minutes or so of tinkering with it
they say you need to get the touch Braille to work, but even so using the
screen wasn't horrible.  I do think it would get tiring for long typing
because you can't rest your fingers on the keys and have to keep your
hands suspended though.

Best,
Karl

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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille

Hi Vejas and all,

I also plan to replace my Braille Note Apex with a new note-taker within
the next year or so, so I'm very interested in this thread. I have been
intrigued by the Braille Note Touch - Do people have specific
opinions/thoughts about its user interface? Is the touch screen intuitive
to use? Could most functions be carried out using the keyboard cover if
one prefers not to use the touch screen? Thanks for any input!

Katie

On 7/7/16, David Thomas via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
 Hello,
 The notetaker missing in this discussion is the El Braille. This
notetaker  is a full Windows 10 Machine with 14 cells of refreshable
braille, and a  promising outlook as it will receive updates at the same
time that other  Windows 10 devices get updated. Another benefit of this
device is the  ability for network administrators to easily integrate it
into  pre-existing networks, and for the blind user to be able to use all
business protocols such as exchange, Skype for Business, and other
business collaboration packages on the market today. My worry about the
group of Android notetakers that are being released to the market today is
the possibility of them not being updated. An example of an Android
notetaker gone wrong is the APH braille Plus that was released in 2011
running 2.3 gingerbread. At that time gingerbread had been out for 1 year,
and Google had already unveiled Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
Yes I
 understand it is a lot of work to keep a notetaker up-to-date, but it is
really a necessary thing if we are expected to compete on a level playing
field.
 The next question this brings me to is "Do we actually need a notetaker?"
 I personally have come to the conclusion of no, and have implemented a
system using an iPhone, and a braille display for my simple note taker
needs. This solution insures that I am using a mainstream device while
retaining the lovely braille output we have come to love.
 Regards
 David Thomas

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 The Neo is an Android notetaker with the ability to download and use all
accessible Android apps from the Google Play Store, just like the Touch.
 The BrailleSense doesn't have that capability, and it's an older design,
so you would have it for fewer years before they come out with the next
hardware revision.  I didn't really compare the Neo to the BrailleSense in
terms of specs because I was mostly looking at the Touch and the Neo.

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 How does it stack up to the braille sense u2?
  Justin

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 Yes I did see it.  The guy from Irie didn't know much about how the
software or user interface works (Irie is only the distributor not the
manufacturer), so I don't know how efficient it is to actually use.  It is
less expensive than the Braillenote Touch though with significantly better
memory, processor speed, and running a newer version of Android, and most
importantly for me will have the option of a qwerty smart case, so I am
very excited to learn more once it actually comes on the market at the end
of the month.

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 Date sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:35:33 -0700
 Subject: [nabs-l] Did Anyone At Convention See the Neo Braille

 Hi All,
 I was wondering if anyone at convention who went to the exhibit hall, saw
the Neo-Braille, presented by Irie AT.  It is a notetaker that is so new
that many people have not heard of it.
 In fact, I never heard it announced anywhere else at convention, so if I
hadn't gone to their table I probably never would have heard about it
myself.
 If you did see it, I would appreciate it if you could tell me your
opinion  on it and whether you feel it would make a good notetaker.  I
currently  have a Braille note and am looking within the next year of
either getting  the one I just described, or a Braille sense U 2.
 Thanks.
 Vejas

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