[nabs-l] Is This a Typical Request for Disability Services?

Karl Martin Adam kmaent1 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 24 04:26:12 UTC 2016


That's very important.  Everyone gets lost.  Sighted people blind 
people everyone.  The trick is getting unlost again.  This is a 
bit more difficult for blind people because we don't have all the 
streets and buildings conveniently labeled like the sighted do, 
but apart from reading labels there are really only three ways of 
getting unlost, and they are used the same by the blind and the 
sighted.  One is to use GPS, another is to find someone to ask, 
and the third is to walk until you find a familiar landmark.  The 
latter often works best if you turn around and go back to the 
last place you knew where you were though if you can't do that 
you can just walk until you find something like a major road that 
you can follow.  I find that having a compass or using the 
compass phone app is very helpful too because if you have a 
general idea of how things are related to one another you can 
usually figure out which compass direction should take you 
towards an area that you know.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Justin Williams via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
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Date sent: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:00:55 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Is This a Typical Request for Disability 
Services?

I learned the campus from not only my mobility instructor, but my 
brother, other people on campus, and trial and error were my 
teachers.  My mother also walked a few routs with me, and once 
again, I got lost  few times as well.  I would follow people who 
were going the same way I was to learn the campus.  And, did I 
mention that I also got lost? My mobility instructor did teach me 
the basics, so I had a good strong basic knowledge of the campus 
when I got there, but I learned a great deal when I got there and 
started attending college. You are only really going to learn the 
campus by just being there.


-----Original Message-----
From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Arielle Silverman via NABS-L
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Cc: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Is This a Typical Request for Disability 
Services?

Hi Vejas and all,
I know it can take a while sometimes for voc rehab to get their 
act together and send out a mobility instructor. In the meantime, 
though, anybody who knows the campus can show you around. Even a 
visitor who doesn't know campus, but who is a good map reader, 
can help you find your classroom buildings. If your parents or 
other family or friends are helping you move in, they could also 
help you practice routes to classes simply by reading the maps. 
There is nothing particularly special about having it be a 
certified O&M teacher or someone with any kind of disability 
background.
It will be good for you to learn where your class buildings are 
relative to big landmarks on campus, such as fountains or major 
streets bordering campus. Then, if you get lost, you can ask 
directions based on those landmarks. If you are living in the 
dorms, you could also request help from the resident assistant 
(RA) or other staff in your dorm, whose job it is to help all 
freshmen.
You may be surprised in how quickly you are able to learn to find 
your classes.
Best, Arielle

On 7/23/16, Greg Aikens via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
 I also had my DSO offer to have someone help me orient myself 
before
 the start of my freshmen year of college (too many years ago). 
That
 person helped me for one or two days, maybe three. They would 
have
 been available if I had a specific question about a route, but 
not to
 walk me to my classes every day.

 I certainly did get lost several times those first few weeks, 
but so
 did all freshmen. It was normal to stop someone and ask where a
 building was, normal for an older student to offer to show a 
group of
 freshmen where to go by walking part of the way, etc. I went to 
a
 small private school though, and that may not be so typical on a 
larger campus.

 If you are going to request this accommodation, I recommend you 
limit
 it to the first day you have each of your classes, or at most 
the
 first week. For me, my concerns about getting lost were a great
 catalyst for making friends in my classes early on. I would ask 
people
 where they were headed next after class and if they were heading 
in
 the same direction, I would ask to walk with them as far as our 
paths
 went the same way. This also motivated me to make friends with 
people
 in my dorm. I looked for people who might have a
 9:00 AM class in the same building or in a building close to the
 building I needed and asked if we could walk together, at least 
at the
 beginning. You don’t want to be wholly dependent on these 
people of
 course, but it is a perfectly natural way to connect with others 
and
 learn your way at the same time.

 On a related note, my difficulties navigating the dining hall 
lead me
 to invite people to grab lunch after class etc. I got turned 
down
 plenty of times of course, but it was a good way to connect with
 people and learn my campus without them really even knowing it. 
Upon
 reflection, I probably would have benefited from better travel 
skills,
 but I made it work and developed some cool relationships in the 
process.

 Anyway, that’s just my take on it. I probably gave you more 
than you
 were asking for but I hope some of this helps.

 Best of luck with starting school this fall.

 -Greg

 On Jul 22, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Mine actually sais that they would also, but they also said that 
it
 was a very short term thing because they just didn't have the 
man power.
 Justin

 -----Original Message-----
 From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Logan
 Anderson via NABS-L
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:53 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Cc: Logan Anderson <logan4447 at gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Is This a Typical Request for Disability 
Services?

 Hi,
 I to begin college in less than a month. I have not requested 
this
 particular service from my disability services office, but they 
have
 told me several times it is very typical to have someone help 
you
 learn the campus.
 Though they have said that it is typically only a few days that 
this
 person will help you. I am in the process of requesting my
 accommodations from them, and will probably have no & M on my 
list of
 things that I am going to ask for help with, but I myself don't 
need
 a long-term partner. I honestly don't think my disability 
services
 office even offers a long-term option like this. I don't have 
much
 insight on the situation, but I am sure they will willingly work 
with
 whatever you need to help you succeed in college.
 If you are working through the vocational rehabilitation system 
in
 your area, if there is one, then they also might have assistance 
that
 they can offer you with this question.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Hi All,
 I start college next month, and have been trying to get 
everything
 ready,
 which includes meetings with Disability Services and the normal 
due-dates.
 (I never would have thought that there would be so many 
due-dates
 between college acceptance and the start of school-lesson 
learned there!"
 Although I have been getting to know my disability services, I 
have
 only
 just today received an accmmodations letter.
 One accommodation that I requested from them is to have someone 
walk
 with
 me to each of my classes for the first month or so, while I am 
still
 learning the layout of the campus.  Travel is one of these 
aspects
 for me that I just need to have constant repetition for, and 
although
 I will be working with someone authorized by the Department of 
Rehab,
 this process is still happening and I feel that knowing myself 
and my
 travel skills, I need this.  DSS seems unsure if this is 
possible,
 but is willing to discuss the matter further.  I don't know if 
their
 hesitation has anything to do with the fact that I have 5 
classes at
 5 completely different times, although I think it would be more 
of a
 matter of me communicating with these students via text to 
arrange
 times.
 I have a meeting with them in two weeks, but was just wondering 
if
 you
 have had any similar issues with them and how you have dealt 
with them.
 Thanks,
 Vejas

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