[nabs-l] Guide Dogs and Bathrooms

Wed Oct 19 21:08:09 UTC 2016

Hi Aimee,

You can also tell your dog to stay outside the door of your stall,
take the leash, and pull it under the door with you.  So, you'll have
the leash in your hand, but the dog won't go in there with you.
Unless your dog is super distracted by people, this should work just
fine.  You can even give yourself a long leash if you find that works
better for you.

Hope that helps you.

On 10/19/16, Carly Mihalakis via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Afternoon, Amy, Justin and other interesteds,
>
> Don't know how old this might be, the so-called accessible bathroom
> stall, as I see it, is exactly that, accessible to people who need
> special stalls for any reason, chairs, guide dogs and other what have
> you's. What's the big deal, guys?
> CarAt 12:07 PM 10/18/2016, Aimee Harwood via NABS-L wrote:
>>Ah gotcha Justin.  My school is small.  The other building is quite
>>a ways away.  I'll see what I can come up with.  I usually do
>>mention that it is the only one I can use when I find myself in that
>>position and they apologize for making me wait.
>>
>>Aimee
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 2:47 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Oh, I understand, I'm just saying that they have the right to use
>> that stall
>> > also; it's just that for you, it is realy inconvenient.  Maybe try
>> > talking
>> > to the ladies in that area and explaining to them why that is really a
>> > hendrence to you.  Or, asking the disability to allow you to have the
>> > staff
>> > bathroom as an accommodation if the accessible stall is full.  That
>> > really
>> > seems like a reasonable accommodation to me, because your disability
>> > and
>> > having the guide dog is the only reason you are having difficulties in
>> > this
>> > case.
>> > I know it is usually off limits, but I don't see how to regulate who
>> > uses
>> > the accessible bathroom stalls; I don't see a way for anyone to
>> > regulate
>> > which stall someone else is using.  Yeah, their reasoning sucks, so
>> > that's
>> > why I suggested trying to explain to people why that is really
>> > inconvenient
>> > for you, but I don't know how to get a wide spread message out like
>> > that.
>> > That's why I'm suggesting to find a way through the office of
>> > disabilities,
>> > or just through the head person in the building to use the staff
>> bathroom if
>> > that other stall is full.  You can do that quietly without any of your
>> > contemporaries knowing.
>> > Is there a building next door with easy access maybe That's also
>> > another
>> > option.
>> > Justin
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee
>> > Harwood
>> > via NABS-L
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:08 PM
>> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Guide Dogs and Bathrooms
>> >
>> > Hi Justin,
>> >
>> > It isn't that I don't want to wait my turn. The issue is they do not
>> > have a
>> > disability and are only using it because they don't want to use the
>> > stall
>> > next to someone else.  For others, it is their go-to stall just
>> for the heck
>> > of it.
>> >
>> > There are only 2 ladies rooms, one up-stairs and one down
>> stairs.  There are
>> > only 3 stalls in each.  The faculty lounge is off limits for students
>> > and
>> > therefore is not an option.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts?
>> >
>> > Aimee
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L
>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Technically speaking, you have to wait your turn like everyone else.
>> >> I may bring it up with my professors if it becomes a real problem, but
>> >> you don't want to be that blind person who doesn't want to wait her
>> >> turn for the bathroom.
>> >> Are their other placeswhere you can go to the bathroom on campus,
>> >> maybe get permission to use an employee bathroom in certain places on
>> > campus.
>> >> Ket's try to find a work around first if possible.  I'm giving you
>> >> this suggestion without knowing the context, so if anyone else has
>> >> suggestions, please chime in.
>> >> Justin
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee
>> >> Harwood via NABS-L
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:20 PM
>> >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> >> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>> >> Subject: [nabs-l] Guide Dogs and Bathrooms
>> >>
>> >> Hi there fellow NABSers.  Quick question.
>> >>
>> >> If you use a guide dog and can only fit in the handicap stall, can you
>> >> raise an issue if students are using that stall when others are
>> >> available?
>> >>
>> >> I have encountered this several times and have been late to class as a
>> >> result.
>> >>
>> >> Wanted to check before I said something to the school about it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Aimee
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
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