[nabs-l] Guide Dogs and Bathrooms

Thu Oct 20 00:38:25 UTC 2016

Hello Julie,

I can try that in the first stall.  I think she will block the way to the last stall if I do that in the middle one.  It is worth a try.  Thank you.

Aimee

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Julie McGinnity via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Aimee,
> 
> You can also tell your dog to stay outside the door of your stall,
> take the leash, and pull it under the door with you.  So, you'll have
> the leash in your hand, but the dog won't go in there with you.
> Unless your dog is super distracted by people, this should work just
> fine.  You can even give yourself a long leash if you find that works
> better for you.
> 
> Hope that helps you.
> 
>> On 10/19/16, Carly Mihalakis via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Afternoon, Amy, Justin and other interesteds,
>> 
>> Don't know how old this might be, the so-called accessible bathroom
>> stall, as I see it, is exactly that, accessible to people who need
>> special stalls for any reason, chairs, guide dogs and other what have
>> you's. What's the big deal, guys?
>> CarAt 12:07 PM 10/18/2016, Aimee Harwood via NABS-L wrote:
>>> Ah gotcha Justin.  My school is small.  The other building is quite
>>> a ways away.  I'll see what I can come up with.  I usually do
>>> mention that it is the only one I can use when I find myself in that
>>> position and they apologize for making me wait.
>>> 
>>> Aimee
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 2:47 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, I understand, I'm just saying that they have the right to use
>>> that stall
>>>> also; it's just that for you, it is realy inconvenient.  Maybe try
>>>> talking
>>>> to the ladies in that area and explaining to them why that is really a
>>>> hendrence to you.  Or, asking the disability to allow you to have the
>>>> staff
>>>> bathroom as an accommodation if the accessible stall is full.  That
>>>> really
>>>> seems like a reasonable accommodation to me, because your disability
>>>> and
>>>> having the guide dog is the only reason you are having difficulties in
>>>> this
>>>> case.
>>>> I know it is usually off limits, but I don't see how to regulate who
>>>> uses
>>>> the accessible bathroom stalls; I don't see a way for anyone to
>>>> regulate
>>>> which stall someone else is using.  Yeah, their reasoning sucks, so
>>>> that's
>>>> why I suggested trying to explain to people why that is really
>>>> inconvenient
>>>> for you, but I don't know how to get a wide spread message out like
>>>> that.
>>>> That's why I'm suggesting to find a way through the office of
>>>> disabilities,
>>>> or just through the head person in the building to use the staff
>>> bathroom if
>>>> that other stall is full.  You can do that quietly without any of your
>>>> contemporaries knowing.
>>>> Is there a building next door with easy access maybe That's also
>>>> another
>>>> option.
>>>> Justin
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee
>>>> Harwood
>>>> via NABS-L
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:08 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Guide Dogs and Bathrooms
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>> 
>>>> It isn't that I don't want to wait my turn. The issue is they do not
>>>> have a
>>>> disability and are only using it because they don't want to use the
>>>> stall
>>>> next to someone else.  For others, it is their go-to stall just
>>> for the heck
>>>> of it.
>>>> 
>>>> There are only 2 ladies rooms, one up-stairs and one down
>>> stairs.  There are
>>>> only 3 stalls in each.  The faculty lounge is off limits for students
>>>> and
>>>> therefore is not an option.
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Aimee
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Justin Williams via NABS-L
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Technically speaking, you have to wait your turn like everyone else.
>>>>> I may bring it up with my professors if it becomes a real problem, but
>>>>> you don't want to be that blind person who doesn't want to wait her
>>>>> turn for the bathroom.
>>>>> Are their other placeswhere you can go to the bathroom on campus,
>>>>> maybe get permission to use an employee bathroom in certain places on
>>>> campus.
>>>>> Ket's try to find a work around first if possible.  I'm giving you
>>>>> this suggestion without knowing the context, so if anyone else has
>>>>> suggestions, please chime in.
>>>>> Justin
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: NABS-L [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aimee
>>>>> Harwood via NABS-L
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:20 PM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Cc: Aimee Harwood <awildheir at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Guide Dogs and Bathrooms
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi there fellow NABSers.  Quick question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you use a guide dog and can only fit in the handicap stall, can you
>>>>> raise an issue if students are using that stall when others are
>>>>> available?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have encountered this several times and have been late to class as a
>>>>> result.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wanted to check before I said something to the school about it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aimee
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Second Vice President, National Federation of the Blind of Missouri
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