[nabs-l] writing and working out math and Chemistry problems

Wed Feb 22 19:16:22 UTC 2017

 Hi Ahbee,
I also forgot to mention that I use the braillenote for a calculator. 
The Brailler is a bit heavy to carry but I am able to do it because there is a very short distance from the dorm to Disability Services. However, if it was a longer distance, I would probably bring a small suitcase  with me that has the Brailler and paper in it. I really recommend the Brailler because it allows you to line numbers up and look back at your work easily.
Vejas

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 11:04, Alexandra Alfonso via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I use my braillenote to take and to the actual problems and tests. The
> brailler is to loud and heavy. Also, I use a software so when I put my
> work on a flash drive, the teacher can read the math and science.
> 
>> On 2/22/17, Ignasi Cambra via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> When I took math classes both in high school and later in college I decided
>> to use the LateX programming language on my laptop. In high school I was
>> using a PC, and later a Mac. LateX is a high level programming language
>> (think of it as something relatively similar to HTML) that’s used to write
>> scientific text. You can run LateX files through a compiler, which will give
>> you a PDF or DIV file that anyone can easily read. In other words… You type
>> your formulas in plain text after having learned how LateX works, and then
>> you can print out professional looking documents that people can just read
>> and grade if necessary. I know this sounds a bit complicated, but it was
>> very efficient for me. After I learned the LateX language I could easily
>> produce texts including complicated formulas for math, physics and chemistry
>> classes. I didn’t need to worry about professors not being able to read my
>> stuff, and instructors who were familiar with LateX could easily create
>> documents for me. As a matter of fact when I was in college I took a class
>> that required me to do exercises every week on a website which wasn’t
>> accessible. It turns out those exercises were originally programmed using
>> LateX, so my instructor was able to take them out of the website in LateX
>> format for me. I also used JAWS scripts and later AppleScript to teach my
>> screen reader basic LateX tags, and it would actually read formulas
>> correctly for me. Finally another advantage of this method is that many
>> science textbooks are actually edited using LateX, so sometimes I managed
>> for publishers to send me LateX files with entire books, or at least parts
>> of them.
>> For anyone who is comfortable with a little bit of programming I doubt
>> there’s a more efficient way to do this. It would be nice if there was a
>> completely accessible LateX editor that can interact with screen readers and
>> automatically convert LateX language into Braille on a Braille display, and
>> also do the opposite process by converting Braille text into LateX that
>> could later be used by anyone. This is certainly possible, but as far as I
>> know nobody has done it yet.
>> I hope this isn’t too confusing for everyone…!
>> 
>> IC
>>> On 22 Feb 2017, at 12:07, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, basically, you all take notes on an electronic device and do your
>>> actual homework and tests and quizzes on the brailler. I use a Focus 40, a
>>> bluetooth keyboard, and an iPad when I take notes. I've been trying to
>>> work out problems in math and Chemistry on these devices. It has gotten
>>> harder lately to do these problems. I've been making up a code so that my
>>> teachers can read what I'm doing. That's not best practice, which I know,
>>> but I've done that for a while now. I'm thinking about switching to the
>>> brailler. Any thoughts on this? Am I doing it fine?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org <mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ahbee,
>>>> I am taking math right now. I use my braillenote to take notes in class,
>>>> but I use my Perkins Brailler for everything else. I take quizzes and
>>>> tests in a separate room so noise isn't an issue. I also use the Brailler
>>>> for working with my math tutor.
>>>> That's too bad that your TVI doesn't know Braille. But you can use the
>>>> print book as a reference for them. For my math tutor, I bring the print
>>>> book as well as the volume I am working on, so that they can then follow
>>>> along.
>>>> Vejas
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 05:03, Ahbee Orton via NABS-L <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm wondering, how did you do math and science in high school and now in
>>>>> college? I know that it's better on the brailler but it is noisy so it
>>>>> can be difficult for me or the others to hear the teacher. I would also
>>>>> wonder what I should do, because my TVI isn't so good at Braille. I'd
>>>>> have to tell her what the paper says. Any suggestions on completing math
>>>>> and chemistry assignments and doing the work the teacher's showing on
>>>>> the board as well? Thanks!
>>>>> Ahbee
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Ahbee's iPhone
>>>>> 
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