[NABS-L] Please read if you haven't yet updated to iOs 13

Mon Sep 23 15:03:29 UTC 2019

Perhaps we can let people use what works for them without 
insisting that everyone needs to use something or no one should 
use that thing?

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From: "Littlefield, Tyler via NABS-L" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
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Date sent: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 09:07:50 -0400
Subject: Re: [NABS-L] Please read if you haven't yet updated to 
iOs 13

I'm a bit baffled by this email. I can't understand parts of it, 
but the
concerning issue for me here is that you're pushing KNFB reader. 
No one
should be using it; it's fallen behind, and there are many many 
better
alternatives. Just because we push a program and an app in an
organization shouldn't mean that people are stuck using it if it 
doesn't
compete with other applications.

As a blind person, I have many tools in my independence toolbox, 
many of
which are on my phone; Voicedream scanner, Seeing AI, etc. I will 
use
whatever works best for me to allow me to be productive and work 
well,
and being beholden to a single app which has fallen far behind in 
this
space because an organization which I belong to pushes it is not 
my idea
of productive nor independent.

On 9/22/2019 9:43 PM, maurice.mines via NABS-L wrote:
 Hi, have you tried using Knfbreader? Thatâ€™s what you should be 
using!
 I know itâ€™s great and wonderful and supposedly cold or use 
upstate one
 else uses but we have worked tirelessly in this organization to 
try
 and and make it work for all of us and the blind as community at
 large. I found this application to be outstanding. Just a 
suggestion.

 If your initial version of wire was 13 some problems, from what 
I
 tested obviously issues are actually not that large. Also baron 
mind
 that the operating system world get and update on Tuesday. So if 
you
 can get through Monday with some of these work arounds, whenever 
you
 get a free moment, more like about 20 minutes to half an hour or 
so,
 you can update your phone and hopefully things will be 
substantially
 better. Thatâ€™s all I can say at this time.

 Sincerely Maurice Mines.
 Check anyone wish to ask me questions off List, there are two 
ways
 reaching me. The first is calling a relay number for the deaf, 
that
 number is 661-246-3110.
 Or you may send email toEmail: board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org
 <mailto:board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org

 On 22 Sep 2019, at 14:44, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote:

 Hi All,
 I hope you have had a great start to the school year.
 I updated to iOS 13 from iOS 12 on my iPhone 8. I'm experiencing 
some
 VoiceOver issues which, although I can mostly work around them, 
would
 have made me reconsider updating, so I would highly recommend, 
for
 these of you who haven't yet updated, not to do so.
 First, you can no longer read PDF files on the Apple Books app. 
I
 used to love doing this because it allowed me to navigate files
 easily, search for page numbers, and only show one page at a 
time.
 The phone will just freeze at the text. (Note that books from 
the
 Apple store will still work). I'm fortunate to have a 
Braillenote
 which will allow me to access the relatively large textbook I 
need,
 but I would still, in hindsight, not have updated yet.
 The second thing (although this is much more minor) is that you 
can't
 log in to Amazon any longer with the iPhone. The password field 
goes
 blank after you type it in, so that the only two ways to log in 
would
 be with a computer or with sighted assistance.
 I just thought I'd let you all know.
 Vejas
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