[NABS-L] Please read if you haven't yet updated to iOs 13

[Littlefield, Tyler]

I'm a bit baffled by this email. I can't understand parts of it, but the 
concerning issue for me here is that you're pushing KNFB reader. No one 
should be using it; it's fallen behind, and there are many many better 
alternatives. Just because we push a program and an app in an 
organization shouldn't mean that people are stuck using it if it doesn't 
compete with other applications.

As a blind person, I have many tools in my independence toolbox, many of 
which are on my phone; Voicedream scanner, Seeing AI, etc. I will use 
whatever works best for me to allow me to be productive and work well, 
and being beholden to a single app which has fallen far behind in this 
space because an organization which I belong to pushes it is not my idea 
of productive nor independent.

On 9/22/2019 9:43 PM, maurice.mines via NABS-L wrote:
> Hi, have you tried using Knfbreader? That’s what you should be using! 
> I know it’s great and wonderful and supposedly cold or use upstate one 
> else uses but we have worked tirelessly in this organization to try 
> and and make it work for all of us and the blind as community at 
> large. I found this application to be outstanding. Just a suggestion.
>
> If your initial version of wire was 13 some problems, from what I 
> tested obviously issues are actually not that large. Also baron mind 
> that the operating system world get and update on Tuesday. So if you 
> can get through Monday with some of these work arounds, whenever you 
> get a free moment, more like about 20 minutes to half an hour or so, 
> you can update your phone and hopefully things will be substantially 
> better. That’s all I can say at this time.
>
> Sincerely Maurice Mines.
> Check anyone wish to ask me questions off List, there are two ways 
> reaching me. The first is calling a relay number for the deaf, that 
> number is 661-246-3110.
> Or you may send email toEmail: board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org 
> <mailto:board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 Sep 2019, at 14:44, Vejas Vasiliauskas via NABS-L wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I hope you have had a great start to the school year.
>> I updated to iOS 13 from iOS 12 on my iPhone 8. I'm experiencing some 
>> VoiceOver issues which, although I can mostly work around them, would 
>> have made me reconsider updating, so I would highly recommend, for 
>> these of you who haven't yet updated, not to do so.
>> First, you can no longer read PDF files on the Apple Books app. I 
>> used to love doing this because it allowed me to navigate files 
>> easily, search for page numbers, and only show one page at a time. 
>> The phone will just freeze at the text. (Note that books from the 
>> Apple store will still work). I'm fortunate to have a Braillenote 
>> which will allow me to access the relatively large textbook I need, 
>> but I would still, in hindsight, not have updated yet.
>> The second thing (although this is much more minor) is that you can't 
>> log in to Amazon any longer with the iPhone. The password field goes 
>> blank after you type it in, so that the only two ways to log in would 
>> be with a computer or with sighted assistance.
>> I just thought I'd let you all know.
>> Vejas
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