[nagdu] newbie intro & comment on previous submitted cruiseship Q

Tue Nov 11 12:26:26 UTC 2008

Hi Rebecca.

In some ways it is true that for example in Austria, pet dogs  can be seen
almost everywhere in public places, transport etc. It is true that in some
countries the shop owner can decide to allow or deny you the access, But as
I know the EU government and law committee are trying to make a law which
allows service animals access into every public facilities,, which means 
universall law,  and I'll have to
brag, that EU is using Croatian GD law as a platform.
My experience in Austria, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, and Serbia is O.K. Only
in Serbia I had problems, but soon they will pass the law regarding the
service dogs. In my former posts I spoke about the current situation in my 
country, Croatia.
When U said that grass is not always greener at neighbours yard, it is true, 
but I think that the situation is similar where ever you go, despite the law 
there will always be dogloving, neutrall and dog hating people and we have 
to make the peace with it.

 At 24'th of this month I'm going to Germany, Dachau for few
days, and I'll post to the list my experiences from there.

P.S. congratulations to everybody on the result of elections.

Have a nice one!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M." <Rebecca.Pickrell at ngc.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] newbie intro & comment on previous submitted cruiseship
Q

> Bunny.
> Don't get too into the idea that Europe has it all figured out with
> regard to dogs and humans.
> Remember the article about the airport in England? And, while it is
> correct that dogs can accompany their owners into stores and the like,
> this is not a universal decree from on high.
> The owner of a given shop gets to decide if dogs are welcome, and
> because dogs are so common, guide dogs and other service dogs are
> notalways given the consideration you'd think.
> It would really suck, for example, to have a grocery store owner decide
> that he/she was not going to allow dogs in his store, if you needed to
> use that store with your dog.
> The grass isn't always greener is all I'm getting at.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Bunny Davidson
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:21 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] newbie intro & comment on previous submitted cruise
> ship Q
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have been reading for a few weeks and decided today to enter the
> participation realm!
> My name is Bunny, my guide's name is Lady.
> (i am not sure how much info is appropriate or customary here)
>
> I feel so releaved to be a part of this list.  I am in an isolated Rural
> Mayberry RFD type area of new england and sometimes feel like david vs.
> goliath when trying to go about my biz with my dog.
>
> I read with interest every post and thank you all so much for this list,
> your comments and the education/experience you all share here.
> i dont know who heads this list, but thank you to them especially.
>
> Is there a place where we can see who belongs and where they are from ?
> (like is there any membership list/profile info)?
>
> if so please direct me...
>
> my lady is getting on in years and i have begun a bit of inquiry to find
> a new service dog.
> I got her at 2 years old from a family who no longer had time for her.
>
> I worked with dogs professionaly prior to my injuries, and had no
> problem (i welcomed) the oportunity to train her to my specific needs.
>
> if any of you can share with me any tips on obtaining an adult dog (1-3
> yrs) that i can train please share.
> I am in the western mass/southern vermont border area if any of you know
> of any places i can seek out a dog to adopt.
>
> I have had several occasions in the last 12 years to defend my rights
> under the ada, and i usually keep a printout in ladys vest pocket to
> show ignorant policemen who are called about me /dog or by me and dog
> for help where i am denied access.
>
> I do know there is no american's with disabilities act once you leave
> our country.  so for the woman cuising, keep that in mind.
> I also know that in europe for instance, there is no need for a service
> dog law, as dogs go all over with the owners.
> it is common to see german shephards, boxers et... in german restarants
> , cafe's and shops.  No one gets all upity about it, its normal there.
> To bad we need a law here, even worse most dont even know laws
> principals nor do they act within it so often.
>
>
> maybe you can find an online community events/social chat based in
> bahamas or wherever your ship is docking, ask them to tell you what is
> common protocol there for people with pet dogs & for people with guide
> dogs?  just an idea, the internet is full of rescources.
>
> God bless you all, and most of all bless god for our wonderful dogs.
>
> Bunny
> BunnyBunBunaBUN-Dance,BUNderful, BunTastic, Some Bun Special,
> Cuddle-bunSweetBUN (if you think of more, let me know!)
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