[nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking

[Charlene Ota]

Rebecca, I guess that comment was to address the possibility that Cheryl
might be wondering why someone retired their dog and she might have hearad
that it was due to barking and growling but didn't get any details.
Sometimes we don't get the whole story and it might sound strange that a dog
is retired because of growling and barking. So we just don't always have the
whole story.  That's what I meant by that.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Pickrell, Rebecca M.
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:11 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking

Charleen wrote;
There's always that special situation that sounds so strange to the rest of
us, but when you look at it, sometimes it can't be helped.
Rebecca writes; Such as? 
Can you provide some additional detail into the statement? 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Charlene Ota
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:36 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking

My dog barks a little when someone comes in our yard or to the door but
that's about it.  Heavens!  I sure wouldn't retire the boy for that for
goodness sake!  (smile!)  Oh, and once at our local NFB convention, in a
little movie thing some dog barked and he did that half bark thing maybe you
call it a mumble/bark or something and I told him to be quiet but that was
it.  No big deal!

On a more serious side of it, though, I think it is kind od frustrating when
dogs bark out in public, you know, the full on barking at other dogs in
restaurants and such.  I wish people would at least attempt to control such
behavior and I've seen some who do and some who don't. I guess if it really
gout out of hand and couldn't be stopped it might be reason for a person to
retire the dog because it isn't good behavior out in public. It's something
that would surely have to be looked at in context. There's always that
special situation that sounds so strange to the rest of us, but when you
look at it, sometimes it can't be helped.

Charlene 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of craig.borne at dot.gov
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:41 AM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking

Doesn't it matter in what situation the dog growls or barks?  Ollie may
growl or bark at another dog, if that other dog is off leash and in Ollie's
face.  Under that set of circumstances, I can't say I blame him.

Ollie is also in the habit of barking when our door bell rings or someone
knocks at our door (not when the same is done when we are visiting others at
their home).  At first, I tried to curb this behavior, but then I came to
the conclusion that I actually like him alerting me to when someone is at
the door.

Barking and growling at someone or something on the other side of the street
or on leash is not a very good trait in a guide dog, but the alternatives
described above frankly do not bother me, regardless of whether or not the
dog school agrees.

Craig

Craig Borne
NHTSA/DOT
(202) 493-0627
craig.borne at dot.gov
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of cheryl echevarria
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:28 AM
To: nagdu
Cc: New York Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools and dogs growling and barking

I am not a liberty to mention names or dogs or schools.

But there has been some talk and I would like to ask.

hypothetically speaking, if a dog growls or barks, should the school tell
you to retire your dog, I mean I own maxx I had that option but lets say you
don't own your dog out right, and the dog is a good worker other than the
little growls and barking.  Is that any reason to retire a dog.

Thank you.\

Cheryl Echevarria
Treasurer
National Federation of the Blind
Greater Long Island Chapter 


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