[nagdu] Pet tags on the beach

Marion & Martin swampfox1833 at verizon.net
Mon Aug 3 20:24:50 UTC 2009


Angie,
    these tags are different than the ones we are issued in Hillsborough 
County, Florida, as ours are County license tags that verify a rabies 
vaccination. The fee for these tags/licenses is $15.00.

Fraternally,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach


> Hi Marion,
>
> That's interesting. The tags I'm thinking of come directly from the vet 
> and
> have the lot number of the rabies vaccine on them. These particular tags 
> can
> be separate from licensing tags, since GDB put one on Glaze's collar, and
> they of course had no authority to license her in VA.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 7:58 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>
> Angie,
>    In our community, the vet gives us verification that our dog has been
> vaccinated and the County issues the tag or "license". There are, as well,
> some vets who issue the tags through an arrangement with the County. My
> previous vet did this, but our current vet does not.
>
> Fraternally,
> marion
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>
>
>> Hi Marion,
>>
>> I think that in most places, the vet  issues you a rabies tag, and the
>> municipality issues you a separate license tag.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Marion & Martin
>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:13 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>
>> Cindy,
>>    In Hillsborough County (Tampa, Florida) where I live, licensing and
>> rabies tags are one in the same. I guess I assumed that this was so
>> everywhere. Can you tell me what the difference is between licensing and
>> rabies tags where you live?
>>
>> Fraternally,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at qwest.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 1:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>
>>
>>> Thanks for the information. I have never licensed my dogs; I have had
>>> rabby
>>> tags to show they were inoculated.
>>>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 12:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>
>>>
>>> Cindy & Julie,
>>>    Let me take these questions separately. As for the licensing
>>> requirement, such a requirement is in place to ensure that animals are
>>> kept
>>> up-to-date on their rabies vaccinations,. All dog owners  are required 
>>> to
>>> maintain  immunity to this disease. The license is the authority's means
>>> whereby they can verify this. The fee for this, however, is waived for
>>> service animal users, as it can be considered a tax.
>>>    As for the morals or ethics of a special tag, service dogs are 
>>> allowed
>>> access to the beach or any other place the general public is invited. My
>>> mother lives two blocks from the Gulf of Mexico. If I were to walk to 
>>> the
>>> beach - which I generally do - working my dog and, once I get there, 
>>> take
>>> it
>>> out of harness and let it be just a dog, it is still a service animal 
>>> and
>>> no
>>> special tags or restrictions, over and above the leash laws, can be
>>> required
>>> of me. Even if I were to use my cane and heel my dog, it is still a
>>> service
>>> animal under the law. JMHO!
>>>
>>> Fraternally,
>>> Marion
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at qwest.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 9:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure it is a question of morals, ethics, or anything else like
>>>> that
>>>> if you are fulfilling your responsibilities as a guide user. I guess I
>>>> really didn't know you have to do that. Are you supposed to license the
>>>> guide in a community where you live, for I've not done that either. He
>>>> never
>>>> runs free and is microchipped. I have actually wondered about this.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 8:17 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree that pet tags are not required even if the dog is out of
>>>> harness.
>>>> However it seems to me an issue of morals.  If you are utilizing pet
>>>> services and amenities then you should fulfill the pet requirements. 
>>>> It
>>>> seems like taking advantage to me otherwise.  But if all Wayne intends
>>>> is
>>>> to
>>>> have his dog lie beside him out of harness or something similar to what
>>>> a
>>>> guide would do if not working at that precise moment, then I'd say
>>>> that's
>>>> a
>>>> no pet tags situation.
>>>>
>>>> JMHO
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:53 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Julie,
>>>>>    I disagree with the need for any sort of tags, even if out of
>>>>> harness
>>>>> "enjoying the beach". Whether in harness or not, the dog is still a
>>>>> service animal under the law and no further restrictions or
>>>>> requirements
>>>>> can be imposed. As for the Credentials" cited by Cindy Lou and the
>>>>> education by Mike Hingson, take the time to educate, if you wish, but
>>>>> give
>>>>> them a sound education by not presenting credentials. Otherwise, they
>>>>> may
>>>>> feel as if they have the right to require them and they do not! HTH!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 10:16 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree with Michael.  she's not a pet and not subject to pet
>>>>>>restrictions. However if you are planning to let her out of harness 
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>enjoy the beach like the pet dogs, then I'd say tags are in order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have fun!
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:51 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm thinking I would take her tomorrow evening, be sure I have hold
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> her,
>>>>>>> haveall of the rest of her credentials available, and then assure 
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> officials who question her being there that  you will, indeed, go 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> appropriate tags on Monday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:46 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Pet tags on the beach
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings. Sorry for the short notice. I talked with my parents
>>>>>>> earlier who are already in Florida. I'm leaving tomorrow morning.
>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>> mentioned that pets need to get tags from a specific office in order
>>>>>>> to go on the beach. I know that guide dogs arent' pets, but does
>>>>>>> anyone know if I need to worry about this with my guide, or will the
>>>>>>> harness be enough to convince any officials on the beach? We talked
>>>>>>> about taking my dog with us to the beach perhaps tomorrow evening to
>>>>>>> see how she reacts and then decide if we need to do anything with 
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> the rest of the week. However, since the "tag office" for lack of a
>>>>>>> better phrase isn't open till Monday morning, if we do need tags 
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> we wouldn't be able to take her tomorrow. She has a microchip ID on
>>>>>>> her collar that we got last fall when in training, and I've of 
>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>> got an ID card for her proving that she's a guide dog. Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> My blog:
>>>>>>> http://wayneism.blogspot.com
>>>>>>> My websites:
>>>>>>> www.wayneism.com
>>>>>>> www.whitecaneday.org
>>>>>>>
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