[nagdu] Service Animals in Health Care Failities

[Ted Shelly]

Marion,

Thank you for this excellent document. It answers many questions.

Regards,

Ted 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion & Martin
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 7:24 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: [nagdu] Service Animals in Health Care Failities

Nicole,
    Your message raises another question for me. What is the type of area at
your doctor's office in which you are restricted from taking your dog? I
feel it is important for everyone to know that, according to the Centers for
Disease Control's guidance on this, there are very few areas in which a
service animal "poses a direct threat that cannot be mitigated by a
modification of policies, practices, and procedures". These places are those
in which everyone must take "universal precautions, i.e., wear gloves,
gowns, & masks. It is not reasonable to expect a service animal to undergo
such precautions. The entire document is attached to this message.

Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness


> For those times that Lexia is out of the harness, but I still need people 
> to
> know that she is a guide dog, she has a vest that I bought and sewed two
> patches on; I don't remember what the patches say.  .  An example of a 
> time
> that I would use it is I take her to the doctor with me and have to leave
> her with someone because she can not go into a certain area.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J
> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:04 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
>
> Marion,
>
> *let's consider our stays in hotels. During convention, I always give my 
> dog
> a day off in the middle of the convention. However, our policy requires us
> to not leave our dog unattended in the rooms. Therefore, I allow my dog to
> accompany me out of harness. From your perspective, would this be 
> unethical?
>
> *
> For me this is not something I would do.  When I went to convention with
> Belle I did give her time off, but I did have her harness on while I used 
> my
> cane and took her along on leash.
>
> *suppose I want to relieve my
> dog. Should I be required to harness my dog to take her out if I do not 
> wish
> to work her? * Again for me it would depend on where I was, how far it was
> to the place to relieve her and what I would have to go through to get
> there.  At a large, no pets hotel, with a long way to go to get outside, 
> yes
> I would probably put the harness on whether or not I was working her or
> using my cane.
>
> *And, if while I am out, I decide to stop into the restaurant to get a
> couple of cups of coffee to take back to my room for merry and me, should 
> I
> be restricted from entering into the restaurant if my dog is not in 
> harness?
> * Restricted, I don't know.  Again I would not be comfortable taking my
> guide dog into a restaurant out of harness.
> *Does my dog pose any greater threat to those in the restaurant if she is
> not in harness?* No, not at all.  But I don't think that is the issue.
>
> *    While I am at work and the dog is lying under my desk, should I be
> required to keep my dog in harness to satisfy some ethical consideration? 
> *
> no.  That is your space.
>
> *Some schools and even more users train their dogs to guide on leash 
> without
> the harness.  Again, if I am at work and wish to get a drink or step 
> outside
> for some fresh air, should I be required to put the harness on my dog?*
> Required? no, I don't think so, but again I think I would put the harness 
> on
> to do these things.  I also teach my dogs to leash guide, but even if I am
> using leash guiding in a public situation, I still have the dog in 
> harness.
>
> I don't think it's an easy distinction to make, when to put on the harness
> and when not to.  I think Ann Edie said it all better than I could ever
> explain in her post from last week or the week before.  I don't think that
> we should be required to have our dogs in harness in particular 
> situations.
> I do think we need to make every effort to make sure that the public knows
> that our guide dogs are guide dogs.  I think this is best done by having
> them wear their harnesses.  Incidentally I also think that other types of
> service dogs should wear a vest or other identifying equipment, not 
> because
> it is required, but because it is an easy way to identify them as service
> dogs.   It's like a name tag.  Sure people can do a job without a name 
> tag,
> but doesn't it make things easier for the public when you can be easily
> identified?
>
> I definitely don't think we need more rules about when or where or how to
> handle our guide dogs, but at the same time I think we need to do 
> everything
> in our power to help the public understand what is what so that no one 
> feels
> that more rules are in order.
>
> Of course this is JMHO
> Julie
>
>
>
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