[nagdu] The new GDB

[KAYE KIPP]

I was there for three, but Marjorie didn't do a whole lot of testing while I 
was there.  Well, she did a little, but she's doing some testing right now.. 
Nothing serious though.

Kaye
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] The new GDB


> Thanks, Kaye.  Very interesting.  And pretty cool about your solo route,
> with no instructor tagging along!
> Yes, I still have some trouble wrapping my head around food rewards, too.
> But they do seem to work.
>
> Did you find that Marjorie was just getting to the testing stage of things
> when you were getting ready to leave GDB?  That was my only quibble with
> the 2-week program, and it wasn't enough of a concern to keep me from
> doing it again.  It was great to only have to take 2 weeks out of my life,
> instead of 3 or 4.
> Tracy
>
>> Yes, the training was very different.  There's a real emphasis on food
>> rewards, which I found hard to get used to, but at least with Marjorie, 
>> it
>> works.  We also worked with the clicker.  It does work. I clicker-trained
>> Marjorie to find a bus pole and she'll never pass that pole up without at
>> least showing it to me.  And it didn't take very long.
>>
>> There was still plenty of waiting around, but since I've been there, the
>> training has changed.  The training is only for two weeks, even for
>> first-timers, at least in Boring.  I would think there wouldn't be so 
>> much
>> waiting around now because the training would have to be more intense.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:57 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] The new GDB
>>
>>
>>> Kaye, you're just the sort of person I've been wanting to talk to,
>>> someone
>>> who's been to GDB recently, and had GDB dogs before (as have I).
>>> I've been reading a bit about GDB's new approach--less waiting around
>>> during training, and using clicker training.
>>> Did you find your recent class to be significantly different from
>>> previous
>>> classes?  Do you use different methods to control or correct your dog
>>> than
>>> you did before?  I realize it's very hard to compare dogs.  My Echo was
>>> very different from my Amba, even though they were both black labs from
>>> GDB, and trained with the same methods.  But a correction that would
>>> turn
>>> Echo into a quivering jello would barely have gotten Amba's attention.
>>> Also, I went through GDB's 2-week retrain class 4 different times, and
>>> there was still plenty of waiting around, though not nearly as much as
>>> for
>>> the first-timers.  On the other hand, it seemed like my dogs were just
>>> getting to the testing stage of things when I was getting ready to go
>>> home, and I needed someone out on follow-up in a month or two to help me
>>> polish up the rough edges.
>>> Anyway, I'd be real interested to hear your thoughts about your recent
>>> training, and if it was really different from before.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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