[nagdu] The new GDB
kkipp123 at msn.com
Tue Dec 1 15:59:27 UTC 2009
I was there for three, but Marjorie didn't do a whole lot of testing while I
was there. Well, she did a little, but she's doing some testing right now..
Nothing serious though.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] The new GDB
> Thanks, Kaye. Very interesting. And pretty cool about your solo route,
> with no instructor tagging along!
> Yes, I still have some trouble wrapping my head around food rewards, too.
> But they do seem to work.
> Did you find that Marjorie was just getting to the testing stage of things
> when you were getting ready to leave GDB? That was my only quibble with
> the 2-week program, and it wasn't enough of a concern to keep me from
> doing it again. It was great to only have to take 2 weeks out of my life,
> instead of 3 or 4.
>> Yes, the training was very different. There's a real emphasis on food
>> rewards, which I found hard to get used to, but at least with Marjorie,
>> works. We also worked with the clicker. It does work. I clicker-trained
>> Marjorie to find a bus pole and she'll never pass that pole up without at
>> least showing it to me. And it didn't take very long.
>> There was still plenty of waiting around, but since I've been there, the
>> training has changed. The training is only for two weeks, even for
>> first-timers, at least in Boring. I would think there wouldn't be so
>> waiting around now because the training would have to be more intense.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:57 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] The new GDB
>>> Kaye, you're just the sort of person I've been wanting to talk to,
>>> who's been to GDB recently, and had GDB dogs before (as have I).
>>> I've been reading a bit about GDB's new approach--less waiting around
>>> during training, and using clicker training.
>>> Did you find your recent class to be significantly different from
>>> classes? Do you use different methods to control or correct your dog
>>> you did before? I realize it's very hard to compare dogs. My Echo was
>>> very different from my Amba, even though they were both black labs from
>>> GDB, and trained with the same methods. But a correction that would
>>> Echo into a quivering jello would barely have gotten Amba's attention.
>>> Also, I went through GDB's 2-week retrain class 4 different times, and
>>> there was still plenty of waiting around, though not nearly as much as
>>> the first-timers. On the other hand, it seemed like my dogs were just
>>> getting to the testing stage of things when I was getting ready to go
>>> home, and I needed someone out on follow-up in a month or two to help me
>>> polish up the rough edges.
>>> Anyway, I'd be real interested to hear your thoughts about your recent
>>> training, and if it was really different from before.
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