[nagdu] Adrian jumping on people on street!Consideringretirement

Ioana Gandrabur igandrabur at gmx.de
Thu Dec 24 21:18:02 UTC 2009


Hi there,

What is a harness check? I use a leash correction but he is so calm right
after like nothing happened. No excitement perfectly obedient.

Thanks to all of you!

Happy holidays!

Ioana

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
Behalf Of Hope Paulos
Sent: December 24, 2009 1:14 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adrian jumping on people on
street!Consideringretirement


Something else occurred to me with the jumping. Would a harness check after
the jumping has occurred work to teach him not to jump?
Hope and Beignet
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ioana Gandrabur" <igandrabur at gmx.de>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adrian jumping on people on street!
Consideringretirement


> Thanks so much Tracy!
>
> It is nice to hear encouragement. When you say Ben is jumping on people is
> it on friends or total strangers out of the blue? does he give you clues
> that he's about to do it?
>
> I am trying to work him more often. In fact I think I could live with this
> it is just that I feel bad for people being jumped at by guide dog gone
> nuts. Also I am wondering what image I am sending as a guide dog user with
> this kind of behaviour. But in my heart I feel he is safe to work and
> would
> not like to give up on working on this.
>
> Best,
>
> Ioana
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: December 24, 2009 8:36 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adrian jumping on people on street! Considering
> retirement
>
>
> Hi Ioana.
> Happy holidays!
>
> In my experience, dogs have 3 basic kinds of problems--ones you can fix,
> ones you can live with, and ones you can't live with.  Only you can decide
> if your particular problem is one you can't live with.
>
> But it seems to me like a jumping problem is one that can be fixed, and it
> sounds like you're on the right track.  I'd try to work him every day, if
> you can.  I know my dogs have gotten a little squirrelly if they haven't
> gotten regular work.  Even a long snowy weekend can get Ben a bit sloppy
> or sniffier than usual when we first go out.
> The prong collar or gentle leader also seem like good possibilities.
>
> I know what you mean; dogs know when that trainer is around and act like
> little angels!  But you do have the deed on film, so that may help, too.
>
> Ben jumps on people sometimes, but only when he's saying Hello.  With him,
> it's a playful, excited kind of thing.
>
> Anyway, I'd say Don't Panic!  There are still plenty of things to try.
> Tracy
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I wish you a great happy healthy 2010 and a wonderful Christmas and
>> holiday
>> season in general to you and your guides and all your loved ones.
>>
>> I am however writing about a rather disturbing problem I have with
>> Adrian.
>> He has started to every once in a while jump at a person passing on the
>> street next to us. No growling or straining before or after the jump.
>> After
>> he does it he is perfectly calm and response to me perfectly. Did any of
>> you
>> ever have to deal with such an issue with any guide? A trainer will come
>> in
>> January and see us work. I am worried that he will not catch him in the
>> act
>> because it is not a regular thing. We did get 1 jump on film and will
>> send
>> it to the school. We are hoping to find out what is motivating him. Fear,
>> play drive or pray drive or aggression but we think the last one is very
>> unlikely. I have tried the prong caller (the only thing that made him
>> stop
>> barking at other dogs and sometimes at people). I fear that punishing the
>> barking repressed the behaviour and now I am stuck with this jumps with
>> no
>> warning that are harder to control.
>> Will try gentle leader again in hopes that I can detect movement towards
>> the
>> person before he jumps. The frustrating thing is that I have no warning
>> and
>> can only react after he has done it. I don't want to give up on him and
>> will
>> try getting him out more giving him more play rewarding him for just
>> passing
>> people on the street but although this has decreased the problem from 1 2
>> times  day to 1 in a month I am thinking it is 1 too many. Should I
>> retire
>> him? He is my first dog and we have worked well for almost 2 years so the
>> idea of doing so breaks my heart. He did not hurt anyone but it is scary
>> for
>> people and frustrating for me. The pity is that for the rest he does
>> outstanding guide work and has a great disposition.
>> This is confirmed by mobility instructors and school trainers in past
>> visits.
>> Am I overreacting? I don't think so and yet the idea of retiring him
>> makes
>> me feel as if I give up on him too easily. He does not seam stressed
>> while
>> working and is always ready for it. But what else to try I could not say.
>>
>> Thanks for your ideas and support!
>>
>> Ioana
>>
>>
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