[nagdu] Fw:[buddy-l] very bad legislative effort

cheryl echevarria cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 29 11:27:30 UTC 2009

Have you reported this to the town or county that the bus system is with, FYI, call the papers, and if someone is sitting in the wheelchair area, the drivers are suppose to ask that person to move or stand so that you may enter the bus.  Always try and get the bus no, or if not mark the time of day and the exact location, get in touch with you local congressman I am sure they would be interested in help you with these issues.  As well as a good attorney and your Department of Human Rights.

Cheryl Echevarria 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mardi Hadfield<mailto:wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com> 
  To: nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw:[buddy-l] very bad legislative effort

  Hi every one, Hope you all had a great Christmas. This is my opinion for
  whatever it is worth. First of all, I am and owner trainer, and also had the
  help of a trainer when training my current guide and my past guides. Both
  Nick and I have never had a problem with taking the dogs into public
  accommodations.The dogs had on a vest that said "Guide Dog In Training"in
  the beginning and a guide dog harness in their later training. My dog has
  never been denied access, but I , as a disabled person have.I have
  contributed this to the fact that I am in a wheelchair.The bus drivers don't
  want to take the time to deal with loading a wheelchair on to the bus. If I
  were an ambulatory person with a dog, I would never have the problems I have
  with accessing buses.When I am told that the bus is too full to let me
  on,they let people that are able to walk, get on the bus, but leave me.Even
  If I did not have a dog with me I would have the same problem because of the
  wheelchair.In my opinion, if there is a wheelchair bay that is not occupied
  by a wheelchair, then there is room for my chair. If the bus has the
  wheelchair bays occupied by wheelchairs, then there is no room on that bus
  for me.I am turned away when there is a bay that is not occupied. My dog was
  once kicked and pushed off the bus,because I allowed her to go up the steps
  on to the bus because I was objecting to being denied a ride,when I knew
  that there was indeed a wheelchair bay that was open.My dog and I prevented
  the bus from moving on. I was trying to stand up for my rights.My dog
  suffered for it. But it was me that was being denied, because of the
  wheelchair,not because I had the dog. I seriously doubt that trainers have
  that many access problems as even in my state of Arizona, there is a local
  law that says that dogs in training have the same privileges that dogs
  already trained have.I, as a trainer had no problems with access.Now that I
  have a fully trained guide dog,I as a disabled person in a wheelchair have a
  problem.I do not think the ADA should cover people who are not disabled.Most
  states have laws covering dogs in training.If indeed this should pass in
  congress,I would continue to have the same problem because of my wheelchair.
  If I needed some thing to say I was certified, I would just make a card on
  my computer that said certified trainer and no one would even ask me to show
  it.Nick made a card for Shaman that says he is a guide dog.No one has ever
  asked me to prove he is a guide dog. JMHO  Mardi and Shaman and

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