[nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
Lora and Myrtle
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Sat Feb 14 18:39:47 UTC 2009
What other schools did you go to?
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, <lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Hi Haben,
> Unfortunately, the Naval Medical Center cannot pay us. They're cutting
> their paid staff! And wasting money to revamp several areas on the base. It
> would be nice to be paid, but...you know how that is. I'm glad you enjoyed
> the articles. We enjoy what we do pay or no pay. I'd say that our "pay" is
> the contribution to the healing of our Wounded Warriors. These
> servicemembers are all mostly 18 and 19 year olds who went into the military
> because they wanted to serve the country they love. We feel that the
> program is a way that we can also serve our country - we can't serve in the
> military ourselves. We see first hand what this long war in Iraq and
> Afghanistan is doing to our young people. Most of the wounded are brain
> injuries, depression, and PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder). Unlike in
> the war in Vietnam, the current servicemembers have to be deployed for over
> a year at a time and they are also deployed over and over. Even sick folks
> are sent back! Not good. Many of our patients are so sick and affected for
> life that they are forced out of the military. They all say in their exit
> interviews that the Paws That Heal program was a huge help in their
> recovery.
>
> Well, until yesterday, all the Paws That Heal canine staff were Seeing Eye
> dogs! We have accepted our newest staffmember and her dog is from Guide
> Dogs for the Blind - San Rafael Campus. We didn't ever discriminate against
> dogs from other schools - we just didn't have any who qualified until now
> (smile!).
>
> Now, about Seeing Eye. You are treated as the mature adult that they
> assume you are. The campus is really nice - nestled in the lovely rolling
> hills of Washington Valley in Morris Township, New Jersey. The living
> arrangements are comfortable and homey. The grounds are nice to walk
> around. There's a leisure path with two gazebos. The staff is very
> friendly and professional in their interactions with the blind people. The
> Seeing Eye is a tough place to find job openings - even jobs like cooks or
> housekeeping. They are a great employer and people don't want to leave!
> All of the staff is comfortable with blindness. I've heard that the staff
> spends some time under blindfold for them to gain a sensitivity towards the
> blind people they work with. You have your own room to yourself with your
> own bathroom. There are lounges to hang out in with stereos and TVs.
> There's an exercise room, laundryroom, dog grooming room, and a computer
> room with CCTVs and a Ham Radio if you are qualified to use that. In each
> room is a radio, I think they still have Satellite radio that a graduate
> donated for the dorm. They got this right after I was there.
>
> The diningroom similates a restaurant setting. At lunch time during the
> weekdays, the whole staff eats there. One or two staff people sits at each
> table with the students. Other staffmembers eat in another area that the
> students must pass through as the staff come to eat about ten minutes before
> the students are called to lunch. Now, this teaches us how to handle our
> new dogs in a situation where people are already eating at tables and we
> learn how to keep proper control of our dogs in a place where there is food
> around. The food is delicious and is much like that served in a fine-dining
> restaurant. They feed you so good that we have to make use of the exercise
> room and the leisure path!
>
> The training is the best I've experienced. I have attended three other
> schools before I attended The Seeing Eye. After experiencing The Seeing
> Eye, I will not even consider any other school. The other schools do a
> decent job, but the Seeing Eye still shines brighter.
>
> The instructors are very good and thorough in teaching us EVERYTHING we
> need to know aboout guide dog care and use. We train in Morristown - a
> lovely town - and other nearby communities. We have four basic routes that
> we do in the beginning. Towards the end we do "free lance" which is any
> particular aspect of training that you feel you need. With one dog, I was
> living nearby my sister-in-law who has horses. I was always over there and
> riding. I needed to have a dog who wouldn't freak out over horses. My
> instructor arranged a visit to a barn full of horses. With Landon, my
> instructors knew about my work with Paws That Heal. I was taken on a visit
> to a nursing home and Landon got to visit with the patients. He loved it!
> We have lots of good lectures. We get training with traffic checks, even
> with the hybrid Prius car! Each instructor has four students in his or her
> class so you get alot of personal attention.
>
> I would say that the experience is like a working vacation. Learn all you
> can and have fun! If you have any concerns - no matter what - talk to your
> instructor. The only "stupid question" is the one never asked (grin!).
>
> Also, you have a ready made community right here on the NAGDU List. We are
> a wealth of information and experience here as we represent many, many years
> of hands-on experience with using guide dogs.
>
> Hopefully, this has answered your questions (grin).
>
> Take care and let us know when you go to Seeing Eye.
>
> Regards,
>
> Linda and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:41 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>
>
>
>> Hey Linda, I loved the articles. It's very touching, such a truly
>> marvelous program. You should ask the Naval Medical Center to pay the blind
>> volunteers? The program has proven its benefits, its successfulness, and I'm
>> sure many of the military men you serve in the program would agree. It
>> wouldn't hurt to ask.
>>
>> I've heard many good things about The Seeing Eye. I'd love to hear your
>> reasons for ranking it as the best school. I laughed when I read that only
>> Seeing Eye teams had passed the interviews for Paws that Heal.
>>
>> best,
>> Haben
>>
>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Haben,
>>> Yes, isn't it a shame that governments get in the way sometimes. The
>>> singer/songwriter Sting has a song about the Cold War between the US and the
>>> old USSR. There is a reoccuring line in the song about the Russians loving
>>> their children as the Americans love theirs! Thanks for the explanations
>>> about Eritrea and Ethiopia.
>>>
>>> Hey! Wonderful about you going to The Seeing Eye! I've been to several
>>> other schools over the years - I've had dogs since 1973. I like The Seeing
>>> Eye the best. I would have started out with them back in 1973 but, at that
>>> time, The Seeing Eye didn't accept people who still had some usable vision.
>>> They soon realized that some people with limited vision do well with guide
>>> dogs and began to accept us. There are some people who have some vision and
>>> they don't learn to trust the dog and it doesn't go well for the team. Some
>>> people with partial vision second guess the dog and the team gets in
>>> trouble. You get hurt because the envirnment isn't what you thought you saw.
>>> The dog gets real confused and stops doing its job. The Seeing Eye will work
>>> you under blindfold if they suspect you are having trust troubles with your
>>> dog. Most people learn to trust their dog.
>>>
>>> There are ways to use the usable vision with the dog. I do that all the
>>> time. However, I "listen" to my dog if he doesn't want to go through
>>> something or he takes me around a black spot on the sidewalk - that tells me
>>> that the black spot was actually a hole! So, TRUST YOUR DOG! (grin!) I also
>>> have no night vision - just lights "floating" in the blackness of the night.
>>> I HAVE to trust my dog as if I were totally blind.
>>>
>>> I also use ZoomText for the PDF files. What did you think about the Paws
>>> program?
>>>
>>> You take care,
>>>
>>> Linda and Landon
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Linda,
>>>>
>>>> The governments of Eritrea and Ethiopia do not get along at all, they've
>>>> been at the verge of war for the last few years, with fighting breaking out
>>>> at the border every now and then. The typical civilian does not hate the
>>>> civilians of the other country. I have family on both sides of the border,
>>>> and quite a lot of people have family on both sides. The cultures are very
>>>> similar, almost identical, and some parts of each country share languages.
>>>> Most Eritreans don't like Ethiopia, but they have Ethiopian friends.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I was able to read the attachments. I use ZoomText, so the pdfs
>>>> weren't a problem. I hope the interview with the woman goes well.
>>>>
>>>> I hope to have a dog by this summer, I'm in the application process with
>>>> The Seeing Eye at the moment. I've heard lots of good things about that
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> Haben
>>>>
>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>>> Thanks. We have alot of Eritrians here in San Diego. I heard that the
>>>>> Eritreans and the Ethiopians don't like each other - is this true? I hope
>>>>> not - I don't like people having age-old grudges against each other - you
>>>>> know - it limits your friendships with people. (grin!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Were you able to read the Paws That Heal attachments I sent you? I
>>>>> know that screen readers and PDF files don't always agree with each other.
>>>>> Tell me what you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomorrow, we're interviewing a local woman and her guide dog for the
>>>>> Paws program. I want to make sure we have another good person in it before
>>>>> I have to leave in July.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if I missed something - do you have a dog? If so, what
>>>>> kind is it and what's its name? I do know that we have people on the list
>>>>> who are between dogs, exploring the possibilities for a first dog. My dog
>>>>> Landon is a Golden/Lab mix and he's red. He's from the Seeing Eye in New
>>>>> Jersey.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>
>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:13 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the articles, Linda!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I identify as female, born in California with family from Eritrea,
>>>>>> East Africa. Haben is actually a gender neutral name in Eritrea, so it's a
>>>>>> legitimate question all around. I like the ambiguity, especially when
>>>>>> filling out applications for various things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best,
>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>>>>> Attached are a couple of articles and a flyer aboout the Paws That
>>>>>>> Heal program. One article and the flyer are in PDF files and the other
>>>>>>> article is in a work doc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't tell from your name if you are a male or female - I just like
>>>>>>> to know what I'm talking to! (grin). What nationality is your name? I'm
>>>>>>> half Polish. It took me an age to find out that Marion Gwizdala is a man!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy the articles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS: Your home e-mail didn't work so this is on the list.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:03 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linda, I am absolutely intrigued! That is such a lovely program! I
>>>>>>>> really hope I can find something like that in the Portland, Oregon area. I
>>>>>>>> am a college student currently taking an anthropology class that requires
>>>>>>>> students to go out and do fieldwork. I am considering doing something with
>>>>>>>> Guide Dogs for the Blind in Boring, Oregon. Right now I'm going to search
>>>>>>>> the Internet for a dog therapy program in Portland. Thanks for sharing
>>>>>>>> LInda!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>>>>>>> There is no web page for Paws That Heal. We are a 3 year old
>>>>>>>>> program that is run out of the Health & Wellness Department for the Naval
>>>>>>>>> Medical Center of San Diego. The program manager is their Diabetes
>>>>>>>>> Instructor. She is visually impaired with a guide dog and she started the
>>>>>>>>> program after an encounter in the elevator with a Wounded Warrior in her
>>>>>>>>> building. The servicemember had a profound stutter and it took him five
>>>>>>>>> minutes to stutter out, "May I pet your dog?" My friend - the instructor -
>>>>>>>>> allowed him to pet her dog and the stutter went away just like that! He
>>>>>>>>> then shared his war experiences with her - the servicemember was wounded in
>>>>>>>>> Iraq.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the Diabetes instructor happens to have been a friend of
>>>>>>>>> mine for years. She also knows several of the other guide dog users in the
>>>>>>>>> San Diego area who already had a program with the local blind center where
>>>>>>>>> we bring our dogs to an outdoor, fenced in dog park to allow the guide dogs
>>>>>>>>> play time together. We had exclusive use of one of the fenced in areas for
>>>>>>>>> two hours once a month. The friend of mine worked with us and her chain of
>>>>>>>>> command at the hospital and permission was granted to bring several wounded
>>>>>>>>> servicemembers to the park to play with our dogs - and Paws That Heal was
>>>>>>>>> born. We also have a portion of the program where we go to the locked
>>>>>>>>> mental health ward to work with the servicemembers with PTSD and depression.
>>>>>>>>> More great stuff happened as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do have a flyer for the program but it is in a PDF file and
>>>>>>>>> turned sideways - don't know if a screen reader can desipher it!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The program manager has written to Marion Gwizdala and he in turn
>>>>>>>>> had her contact Mike Hingson about the program. We are looking for some new
>>>>>>>>> teams to work with us who live in the San Diego area. The Paws program
>>>>>>>>> happens three times a month at the hospital so we need people who can get
>>>>>>>>> there, can commit the time, and pass the interviewing process - both human
>>>>>>>>> and dog.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I forgot, where do you live?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:13 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome Haben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linda, those volunteer programs sound awesome! Would you send me
>>>>>>>>>> the web address for Paws that Heal? I'd love to read more about it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the list, Haben.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm Linda and I live in San Diego - soon to move to Vermont.
>>>>>>>>>>> Landon is my 3 year old red Lab/Golden cross from The Seeing Eye. I got him
>>>>>>>>>>> in the October 2007 class. I am 58 years young and have not had a paid job
>>>>>>>>>>> in eons. I've done lots of volunteer jobs to get experience to put on a
>>>>>>>>>>> resume! Right now, Landon and I work at two pet therapy programs. One for
>>>>>>>>>>> the Humane Society where we visit various facilities for disabled kids and
>>>>>>>>>>> adults. Landon is certified by the AKC's Canine Good Citizenship Test.
>>>>>>>>>>> Landon is their program's first actual working assistance dog they've had.
>>>>>>>>>>> Lots of guide dog and service dog pups, but we are their first working team
>>>>>>>>>>> to be in the program. The other one is a program called Paws That Heal that
>>>>>>>>>>> is at the Naval Medical Center of SD. Both Landon and I had to pass a series
>>>>>>>>>>> of interviews for this. We do a combo pet therapy, socialization, and
>>>>>>>>>>> reintegration work with our Wounded Warriors from Iraq and Afghanistan. We
>>>>>>>>>>> work mainly with the patients on the mental health ward.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Haben, you'll enjoy this list - it's alot of fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <
>>>>>>>>>>> habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:27 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome Haben
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mardi, thanks for the explanations. I love the names of your
>>>>>>>>>>>> dogs. I actually don't have a dog, I'm in the application process for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seeing Eye dog right now. So, I'm patiently waiting to learn my fate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi Hadfield wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi every one, Welcome Haben. No, I don't live in Alaska.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Huskies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are "south paws" We live in Tucson, Arizona. When I first
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed a guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog, I was told that the schools did not train for wheelchair
>>>>>>>>>>>>> users.Since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already had a service dog, who was a husky, I hired a trainer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to help me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> train Lily to guide me. I had to retire her at age 8 as she
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had health
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues and she died month later, leaving me with out a guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog. I tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out a border collie and he did not work out as he had been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused before I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got him and he could not handle being out in public. Then I got
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> husky, Nala,who was a fantastic guide. She will soon be 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>> years old and has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> health issues now.She has guided me for 8 years and it has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> retire her as she does not want to retire. When she sees me
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out, she brings me her harness and get all excited. She
>>>>>>>>>>>>> started picking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fights with Wanagi, the dog that I was training to take over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Nala. She
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a lot happier now that she is working again part time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wanagi came up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lame with a hip problem, so she was career changed. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping her as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pet. I have been looking for a dog to take over as my new guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for over 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>> months. I think I have finally found a dog.I would love to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a dog from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fidelco,but when I asked about it ,I was told that they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> train for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair users.I would have to pay my way to and from South
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eastern Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogs, which I could not afford, and really can't be away that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> long. Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogs for the Blind would take me ,but again, I can't be away
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from my home
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and business that long. So I guess I will just continue to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> train my own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides with the help of my trainer. Haben, do you have a guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog? If so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what breed is it? I love hearing from others and about their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dogs. Have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> great day, Mardi and Nala,semi-retired, and Shaman , possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trainee.
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