[nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal

Wayne Merritt wcmerritt at gmail.com
Mon Feb 16 03:58:45 UTC 2009


You can certainly state your preferences and what dog you'd like to
have, but the more open you are to what they have, the better you're
going to be. For instance, I told them that i wanted a Shepherd, but
that i was open to having a Lab. They found two dogs,a  Shepherd and a
Lab, for me but ultimatley gave me the Shepherd. I couldn't be
happier, not just because I got the dog type I requested, but because
the dog's personality and behaviors match me very well. Everyone's
case is different, so you might get a Lab or Golden. The best thing I
can offer is to be open to whatever they choose and whatever you get.
You never know; the dog they choose might very well end up fitting you
like a glove.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 2/15/09, Haben Girma <habnkid at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Linda, thanks for so much information about the Seeing Eye! I'm looking
> forward to getting a seeing eye dog. One more question, if you don't
> mind. Do seeing eye candidates have any influence over what kind of
> dog/which dog they are partnered up with?
>
> Haben
>
> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>> Hi Haben,
>> Unfortunately, the Naval Medical Center cannot pay us.  They're
>> cutting their paid staff! And wasting money to revamp several areas on
>> the base.  It would be nice to be paid, but...you know how that is.
>> I'm glad you enjoyed the articles.  We enjoy what we do pay or no
>> pay.  I'd say that our "pay" is the contribution to the healing of our
>> Wounded Warriors.  These servicemembers are all mostly 18 and 19 year
>> olds who went into the military because they wanted to serve the
>> country they love.  We feel that the program is a way that we can also
>> serve our country - we can't serve in the military ourselves. We see
>> first hand what this long war in Iraq and Afghanistan is doing to our
>> young people.  Most of the wounded are brain injuries, depression, and
>> PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder).  Unlike in the war in Vietnam,
>> the current servicemembers have to be deployed for over a year at a
>> time and they are also deployed over and over.  Even sick folks are
>> sent back!  Not good.  Many of our patients are so sick and affected
>> for life that they are forced out of the military.  They all say in
>> their exit interviews that the Paws That Heal program was a huge help
>> in their recovery.
>>
>> Well, until yesterday, all the Paws That Heal canine staff were Seeing
>> Eye dogs!  We have accepted our newest staffmember and her dog is from
>> Guide Dogs for the Blind - San Rafael Campus.  We didn't ever
>> discriminate against dogs from other schools - we just didn't have any
>> who qualified until now (smile!).
>>
>> Now, about Seeing Eye.  You are treated as the mature adult that they
>> assume you are.  The campus is really nice - nestled in the lovely
>> rolling hills of Washington Valley in Morris Township, New Jersey.
>> The living arrangements are comfortable and homey.  The grounds are
>> nice to walk around.  There's a leisure path with two gazebos.  The
>> staff is very friendly and professional in their interactions with the
>> blind people.  The Seeing Eye is a tough place to find job openings -
>> even jobs like cooks or housekeeping.  They are a great employer and
>> people don't want to leave!  All of the staff is comfortable with
>> blindness.  I've heard that the staff spends some time under blindfold
>> for them to gain a sensitivity towards the blind people they work
>> with.  You have your own room to yourself with your own bathroom.
>> There are lounges to hang out in with stereos and TVs.  There's an
>> exercise room, laundryroom, dog grooming room, and a computer room
>> with CCTVs and a Ham Radio if you are qualified to use that.  In each
>> room is a radio, I think they still have Satellite radio that a
>> graduate donated for the dorm. They got this right after I was there.
>>
>> The diningroom similates a restaurant setting.  At lunch time during
>> the weekdays, the whole staff eats there.  One or two staff people
>> sits at each table with the students.  Other staffmembers eat in
>> another area that the students must pass through as the staff come to
>> eat about ten minutes before the students are called to lunch.  Now,
>> this teaches us how to handle our new dogs in a situation where people
>> are already eating at tables and we learn how to keep proper control
>> of our dogs in a place where there is food around.  The food is
>> delicious and is much like that served in a fine-dining restaurant.
>> They feed you so good that we have to make use of the exercise room
>> and the leisure path!
>>
>> The training is the best I've experienced.  I have attended three
>> other schools before I attended The Seeing Eye.  After experiencing
>> The Seeing Eye, I will not even consider any other school.  The other
>> schools do a decent job, but the Seeing Eye still shines brighter.
>>
>> The instructors are very good and thorough in teaching us EVERYTHING
>> we need to know aboout guide dog care and use.  We train in Morristown
>> - a lovely town - and other nearby communities.  We have four basic
>> routes that we do in the beginning.  Towards the end we do "free
>> lance" which is any particular aspect of training that you feel you
>> need.  With one dog, I was living nearby my sister-in-law who has
>> horses.  I was always over there and riding.  I needed to have a dog
>> who wouldn't freak out over horses.  My instructor arranged a visit to
>> a barn full of horses.  With Landon, my instructors knew about my work
>> with Paws That Heal.  I was taken on a visit to a nursing home and
>> Landon got to visit with the patients.  He loved it! We have lots of
>> good lectures.  We get training with traffic checks, even with the
>> hybrid Prius car!  Each instructor has four students in his or her
>> class so you get alot of personal attention.
>>
>> I would say that the experience is like a working vacation.  Learn all
>> you can and have fun!  If you have any concerns - no matter what -
>> talk to your instructor.  The only "stupid question" is the one never
>> asked (grin!).
>>
>> Also, you have a ready made community right here on the NAGDU List.
>> We are a wealth of information and experience here as we represent
>> many, many years of hands-on experience with using guide dogs.
>>
>> Hopefully, this has answered your questions (grin).
>>
>> Take care and let us know when you go to Seeing Eye.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Linda and Landon
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Linda, I loved the articles. It's very touching, such a truly
>>> marvelous program. You should ask the Naval Medical Center to pay the
>>> blind volunteers? The program has proven its benefits, its
>>> successfulness, and I'm sure many of the military men you serve in
>>> the program would agree. It wouldn't hurt to ask.
>>>
>>> I've heard many good things about The Seeing Eye. I'd love to hear
>>> your reasons for ranking it as the best school. I laughed when I read
>>> that only Seeing Eye teams had passed the interviews for Paws that Heal.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Haben
>>>
>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>> Yes, isn't it a shame that governments get in the way sometimes.
>>>> The singer/songwriter Sting has a song about the Cold War between
>>>> the US and the old USSR.  There is a reoccuring line in the song
>>>> about the Russians loving their children as the Americans love
>>>> theirs!  Thanks for the explanations about Eritrea and Ethiopia.
>>>>
>>>> Hey! Wonderful about you going to The Seeing Eye!  I've been to
>>>> several other schools over the years - I've had dogs since 1973.  I
>>>> like The Seeing Eye the best.  I would have started out with them
>>>> back in 1973 but, at that time, The Seeing Eye didn't accept people
>>>> who still had some usable vision. They soon realized that some
>>>> people with limited vision do well with guide dogs and began to
>>>> accept us.  There are some people who have some vision and they
>>>> don't learn to trust the dog and it doesn't go well for the team.
>>>> Some people with partial vision second guess the dog and the team
>>>> gets in trouble. You get hurt because the envirnment isn't what you
>>>> thought you saw. The dog gets real confused and stops doing its job.
>>>> The Seeing Eye will work you under blindfold if they suspect you are
>>>> having trust troubles with your dog.  Most people learn to trust
>>>> their dog.
>>>>
>>>> There are ways to use the usable vision with the dog.  I do that all
>>>> the time.  However, I "listen" to my dog if he doesn't want to go
>>>> through something or he takes me around a black spot on the sidewalk
>>>> - that tells me that the black spot was actually a hole!  So, TRUST
>>>> YOUR DOG! (grin!) I also have no night vision - just lights
>>>> "floating" in the blackness of the night. I HAVE to trust my dog as
>>>> if I were totally blind.
>>>>
>>>> I also use ZoomText for the PDF files.  What did you think about the
>>>> Paws program?
>>>>
>>>> You take care,
>>>>
>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Linda,
>>>>>
>>>>> The governments of Eritrea and Ethiopia do not get along at all,
>>>>> they've been at the verge of war for the last few years, with
>>>>> fighting breaking out at the border every now and then. The typical
>>>>> civilian does not hate the civilians of the other country. I have
>>>>> family on both sides of the border, and quite a lot of people have
>>>>> family on both sides. The cultures are very similar, almost
>>>>> identical, and some parts of each country share languages. Most
>>>>> Eritreans don't like Ethiopia, but they have Ethiopian friends.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I was able to read the attachments. I use ZoomText, so the
>>>>> pdfs weren't a problem. I hope the interview with the woman goes well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope to have a dog by this summer, I'm in the application process
>>>>> with The Seeing Eye at the moment. I've heard lots of good things
>>>>> about that place.
>>>>>
>>>>> best,
>>>>> Haben
>>>>>
>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>>>> Thanks.  We have alot of Eritrians here in San Diego.  I heard
>>>>>> that the Eritreans and the Ethiopians don't like each other - is
>>>>>> this true? I hope not - I don't like people having age-old grudges
>>>>>> against each other - you know -  it limits your friendships with
>>>>>> people. (grin!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Were you able to read the Paws That Heal attachments I sent you?
>>>>>> I know that screen readers and PDF files don't always agree with
>>>>>> each other. Tell me what you think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tomorrow, we're interviewing a local woman and her guide dog for
>>>>>> the Paws program.  I want to make sure we have another good person
>>>>>> in it before I have to leave in July.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if I missed something - do you have a dog?  If so,
>>>>>> what kind is it and what's its name?  I do know that we have
>>>>>> people on the list who are between dogs, exploring the
>>>>>> possibilities for a first dog. My dog Landon is a Golden/Lab mix
>>>>>> and he's red.  He's from the Seeing Eye in New Jersey.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:13 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the articles, Linda!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I identify as female, born in California with family from
>>>>>>> Eritrea, East Africa. Haben is actually a gender neutral name in
>>>>>>> Eritrea, so it's a legitimate question all around. I like the
>>>>>>> ambiguity, especially when filling out applications for various
>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>>>>>> Attached are a couple of articles and a flyer aboout the Paws
>>>>>>>> That Heal program. One article and the flyer are in PDF files
>>>>>>>> and the other article is in a work doc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't tell from your name if you are a male or female - I just
>>>>>>>> like to know what I'm talking to! (grin).  What nationality is
>>>>>>>> your name? I'm half Polish. It took me an age to find out that
>>>>>>>> Marion Gwizdala is a man!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enjoy the articles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PS:  Your home e-mail didn't work so this is on the list.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma" <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:03 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog Therapy and Paws that Heal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linda, I am absolutely intrigued! That is such a lovely
>>>>>>>>> program! I really hope I can find something like that in the
>>>>>>>>> Portland, Oregon area. I am a college student currently taking
>>>>>>>>> an anthropology class that requires students to go out and do
>>>>>>>>> fieldwork. I am considering doing something with Guide Dogs for
>>>>>>>>> the Blind in Boring, Oregon. Right now I'm going to search the
>>>>>>>>> Internet for a dog therapy program in Portland. Thanks for
>>>>>>>>> sharing LInda!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Haben,
>>>>>>>>>> There is no web page for Paws That Heal.  We are a 3 year old
>>>>>>>>>> program that is run out of the Health & Wellness Department
>>>>>>>>>> for the Naval Medical Center of San Diego.  The program
>>>>>>>>>> manager is their Diabetes Instructor. She is visually impaired
>>>>>>>>>> with a guide dog and she started the program after an
>>>>>>>>>> encounter in the elevator with a Wounded Warrior in her
>>>>>>>>>> building.  The servicemember had a profound stutter and it
>>>>>>>>>> took him five minutes to stutter out, "May I pet your dog?"
>>>>>>>>>> My friend - the instructor - allowed him to pet her dog and
>>>>>>>>>> the stutter went away just like that!  He then shared his war
>>>>>>>>>> experiences with her - the servicemember was wounded in Iraq.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the Diabetes instructor happens to have been a friend
>>>>>>>>>> of mine for years.  She also knows several of the other guide
>>>>>>>>>> dog users in the San Diego area who already had a program with
>>>>>>>>>> the local blind center where we bring our dogs to an outdoor,
>>>>>>>>>> fenced in dog park to allow the guide dogs play time
>>>>>>>>>> together.  We had exclusive use of one of the fenced in areas
>>>>>>>>>> for two hours once a month.  The friend of mine worked with us
>>>>>>>>>> and her chain of command at the hospital and permission was
>>>>>>>>>> granted to bring several wounded servicemembers to the park to
>>>>>>>>>> play with our dogs - and Paws That Heal was born.  We also
>>>>>>>>>> have a portion of the program where we go to the locked mental
>>>>>>>>>> health ward to work with the servicemembers with PTSD and
>>>>>>>>>> depression. More great stuff happened as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I do have a flyer for the program but it is in a PDF file and
>>>>>>>>>> turned sideways - don't know if a screen reader can desipher it!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The program manager has written to Marion Gwizdala and he in
>>>>>>>>>> turn had her contact Mike Hingson about the program. We are
>>>>>>>>>> looking for some new teams to work with us who live in the San
>>>>>>>>>> Diego area.  The Paws program happens three times a month at
>>>>>>>>>> the hospital so we need people who can get there, can commit
>>>>>>>>>> the time, and pass the interviewing process - both human and dog.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I forgot, where do you live?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma"
>>>>>>>>>> <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 1:13 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome Haben
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Linda, those volunteer programs sound awesome! Would you send
>>>>>>>>>>> me the web address for Paws that Heal? I'd love to read more
>>>>>>>>>>> about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the list, Haben.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm Linda and I live in San Diego - soon to move to Vermont.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Landon is my 3 year old red Lab/Golden cross from The Seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eye. I got him in the October 2007 class. I am 58 years
>>>>>>>>>>>> young and have not had a paid job in eons. I've done lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer jobs to get experience to put on a resume!  Right
>>>>>>>>>>>> now, Landon and I work at two pet therapy programs.  One for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Humane Society where we visit various facilities for
>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled kids and adults. Landon is certified by the AKC's
>>>>>>>>>>>> Canine Good Citizenship Test.  Landon is their program's
>>>>>>>>>>>> first actual working assistance dog they've had. Lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>> guide dog and service dog pups, but we are their first
>>>>>>>>>>>> working team to be in the program.  The other one is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> program called Paws That Heal that is at the Naval Medical
>>>>>>>>>>>> Center of SD. Both Landon and I had to pass a series of
>>>>>>>>>>>> interviews for this. We do a combo pet therapy,
>>>>>>>>>>>> socialization, and reintegration work with our Wounded
>>>>>>>>>>>> Warriors from Iraq and Afghanistan.  We work mainly with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> patients on the mental health ward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Haben, you'll enjoy this list - it's alot of fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda and Landon
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haben Girma"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <habnkid at aol.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:27 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome Haben
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mardi, thanks for the explanations. I love the names of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your dogs. I actually don't have a dog, I'm in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application process for a Seeing Eye dog right now. So, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> patiently waiting to learn my fate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mardi Hadfield wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi every one,     Welcome Haben.   No, I don't live in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alaska. My Huskies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are "south paws"  We live in Tucson, Arizona.  When I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first needed a guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dog, I was told that the schools did not train for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair users.Since I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already had a service dog, who was a husky, I hired a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trainer to help me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> train Lily  to guide me. I had to retire her at age 8 as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she had health
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues and she died month later, leaving me with out a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide dog. I tried
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out a border collie and he did not work out as he had been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused before I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got him and he could not handle being out in public. Then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husky, Nala,who was a fantastic guide. She will soon be 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years old and has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health issues now.She has guided me for 8 years and it has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been hard to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retire her as she does not want to retire. When she sees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me getting ready to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go out, she brings me her harness and get all excited. She
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started picking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fights with Wanagi, the dog that I was training to take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over for Nala. She
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a lot happier now that she is working again part time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wanagi came up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lame with a hip problem, so she was  career changed. I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keeping her as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pet. I have been looking for a dog to take over as my new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide for over 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months. I think I have finally found a dog.I would love to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a dog from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fidelco,but when I asked about it ,I was told that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't train for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wheelchair users.I would have to pay my way to and from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> South Eastern Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogs, which I could not afford, and really can't be away
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that long. Guide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogs for the Blind would take me ,but again, I can't be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> away from my home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and business that long. So I guess I will just continue to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> train my own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides with the help of my trainer.  Haben, do you have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide dog? If so ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what breed is it? I love hearing from others and about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their dogs. Have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great day,  Mardi and Nala,semi-retired, and Shaman ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible trainee.
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