[nagdu] Jury finds IA Dept.forBlind'sguide dogpolicydoes notdiscriminate

Pickrell, Rebecca M (IT) REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com
Wed Feb 25 17:01:49 UTC 2009


Hey Linda, 
If you spent some money on me, I'd feel better too. 
Want to go to Saks? 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Charlene Ota
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:55 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jury finds IA Dept.forBlind'sguide dogpolicydoes
notdiscriminate

Hey Linda, is it the fact that you spent money on him that made him feel
better or whatever it was the vet did for him?  (Just kidding, couldn't
resist! It was just the way you said it!) 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:41 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jury finds IA Dept. forBlind'sguide dogpolicydoes
notdiscriminate

Hi Sarah,
I think it all boils down to us knowing when it is appropriate to have
our dogs with us or not (grin!).  I do take Landon to the zoo as a
visitor.  The animals were fine for the most part - mainly they showed
curiosity.  If the animals started to get upset, well, I moved on.

You were working and feeding animals and of course, the dog would be in
the way!  BTW, I do use my cane lots of times. Landon was sick recently
and I left him home while I took my cane and went to my doctor
appointment.  While out, I called and made a vet appointment for Landon.
He and I went to that and I spent some money on him.  He's feeling
better now.

Cheers,

Linda and Landon
----- Original Message -----
From: "sarah baebler" <wolvessarah at hotmail.com>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jury finds IA Dept. for Blind'sguide dogpolicydoes
notdiscriminate


>
> Here's what I think.  The point of the visual aids  well we're not 
> sure if that's what the teacher/instructor said, but rather was quoted

> in court by someone trying to explain the dog as something visually 
> helping the person.  The dog does have sight and does use it when 
> guiding so that is like sighted guide in a way... I SAID IN A WAY 
> don't
jump down my throat..
> thank you..  Anyways  I think that's is just how they were explaining
it. 
> Also um  Julie and meghan I agree totally with your post.  Number one 
> she should have learned everything about the program before she went 
> into it with her guide.  I had a friend who choose CO NFB center over 
> the others because SHE FELT I said SHE FELT not me or what I think...
> said that the training eventually included guide training after 
> awhile.  Afterall isn't cane travel with a cane?  Like I said before 
> I'm sure something could have been worked out like after her 
> requirments were met with the cane then she could do lessons with the 
> dog and switch back and forth.  As far as the not working the dog.  I 
> did a training center in WI here (unfortunatly not NFB related) but 
> they did the same thing, I kept my dog in a room for short trip and 
> long trips I either kept him heeling or at my apartment.  I did work 
> him when not in the cane travel lessons.  It's up to us to work our 
> dogs even the friend at the CO NFB center worked her dog in her spare 
> time after class, or took a different route home to give the dog more 
> exercise.  Oh geez what were other peopel saying...  OH I do think 
> that people depend way too much on they're dogs.  I've seen people who

> won't even go do anything without them, work them until the day they 
> go to the school to get the next, take them to loud concerts, or 
> places like the zoo where it's damaging to the other animals.  I 
> volunteered at a zoo and kept Dante in the office while I walked 
> around and did the feedings. It would have been stupid for me to work 
> him all around there when I'm hauling food and being around prey 
> animals
or preditors.  I think the schools should also do a better job of making
sure that people know they're cane skills.
> Dante stays home every monday afternoon because i have lab, because I 
> am concerned for him being involved in a haszard, they're are 
> accidents all the time and the last thing I need is my dog getting 
> injured.  Scary story I do know someone who took their dog to lab and 
> a test tube dropped and the dog got glass in it's paws and of'course
licked it. NOT GOOD ENDING.
> SO I'm not saying particular people on the list but I have notice some

> people over over over using their dogs.  OH the last thing was that I 
> nor anyone on this list was there.  We don't know what was said.
> Maybe it was a simple, you need to heel your dog or leave him in the 
> room while we work on your cane travel.  I'm sure it wasn't a you 
> can't bring that dog in here statement.
> OK I'm done rambling,
> Sarah and Dante
>
>> From: swampfox1833 at verizon.net
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:52:25 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jury finds IA Dept. for Blind's guide 
>> dogpolicydoes notdiscriminate
>>
>> Well, this woman did sue....and lost!
>>
>> Marion
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jury finds IA Dept. for Blind's guide 
>> dogpolicydoes notdiscriminate
>>
>>
>> >I agree Marsha.  This is shameful.  If I were the woman, as soon as 
>> >I discovered they didn't allow  my dog to be with me, I'd withdraw 
>> >from the program and sue immediately thereafter.
>> >
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Marsha" <queen.marsha.lindsey at gmail.com
>> >>To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>> > Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> >>Date sent: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:40:54 -0500
>> >>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jury finds IA Dept.  for Blind's guide
>> > dogpolicydoes not discriminate
>> >
>> >>I do not understand myself.  How is this center any different
>> > than one of our
>> >>training centers? Even people who attend our centers can use
>> > their dogs.  I
>> >>understand the need to learn to use the cane, but if that person
>> > chooses to
>> >>use a dog then so be it.
>> >
>> >>Why do we always have to put the cane users against the guide dog
>> > users?
>> >>Marsha
>> >
>> >
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