[nagdu] Fw: Emergency plane evacuation

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Mon Jan 19 16:56:52 UTC 2009


Hi Joy.
Thank you.  This is very helpful.  I thought that was how it would work,
but it's good to hear from someone with actual experience.
Tracy


> Hi all,
>
> I was one of those who participated in the mock emergency exit from the
> plane in Baltimore some years ago. I believe that I was the only one with
> a
> dog guide. Here's how we did it and how the airline believed it should
> work.
> It worked fine. When you are instructed to proceed to the exit you do that
> much as you would board and disembark from a plane. We exited from an exit
> over the wing and took the slide down. When I came to the open door and
> put
> Zenith at sit at my side and sat on the floor on the door frame and put my
> feet over the edge pointing the way we were going to slide then I sort of
> half picked up and half coaxed him onto my lap and we slid down the slide
> together. The flight attendant did interfere and try to pull me to do it
> another way and I simply politely thanked him and said that I had it under
> control. That's what I would have done in real life. Understanding that I
> wasn't disrespecting the emergency procedure or the personnel but simply
> that I didn't need him to either grab my arm or the dog because it wasn't
> going to help me put the dog on my lap. The Hudson river incident was
> different however because they were unable to inflate the slides and the
> passengers were in fact on the wing proper. My husband and I were talking
> about the Hudson River incident this morning.  I believe that I would have
> teamed with other passengers and the personnel just as they did. I believe
> that it would have been better to do so because finding the ship etc would
> have been more difficult on my own. It must be the dog guide user's
> responsibility to handle the dogs as long as we are able because we are
> better able to do this. Basically, anyone in the emergency situation has
> to
> deal with the situation as it arises as best they can. I believe that it
> is
> helpful for me to have experienced the mock situation so that I have an
> idea
> of what it is like.
>
> Joy and Belle,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of JULIE PHILLIPSON
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: NAGDU
> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: Emergency plane evacuation
>
>
> second try
>
> Julie Phillipson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Emergency plane evacuation
>
>
>> Tracy I've often thought about that and thought it would be a good
>> thing
>> to do.  Perhaps if we could get an airline to cooperate this would be a
>> project that NAGDU could take on.
>>
>> Julie Phillipson
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:54 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Emergency plane evacuation
>>
>>
>>> Listening to news reports of yesterday's emergency plane evacuation
>>> in
>>> the
>>> Hudson River, I was wondering how such things work with a guide dog.
>>> The
>>> news said people were holding onto the plane's wing, and some got
>>> soaking
>>> wet.  I was wondering how I would have done it with Ben.
>>> The plane talks always mention a slide.  I've wondered about that, too.
>>> I know, some years back, some Federationists did a mock plane
>>> evacuation
>>> to demonstrate that blind people could do it as efficiently as sighted
>>> people.  I'm sure I could do it too.  I'd just like to have some idea,
>>> beforehand if possible, what it's like so I could figure out a good way
>>> to
>>> work it with Ben.
>>> Anyone have any more experience with it than I do?
>>> I wonder if it might be useful to arrange a mock evacuation, with guide
>>> dogs, maybe during convention or something?  I know Margo and Julie P
>>> have
>>> been doing a lot of work in New York, figuring out how emergency
>>> workers
>>> could work with guide dog users during a chemical contamination
>>> emergency.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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