[nagdu] Joy: Please write to me off-list about this: Emergency plane evacuation

Tue Jan 20 12:39:02 UTC 2009

Joy,
    Please write to me off-list at
president at nfb-nagdu.org
i want to discuss this with you in greater detail. Thanks!

Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: Emergency plane evacuation


> Hi Joy.
> Thank you.  This is very helpful.  I thought that was how it would work,
> but it's good to hear from someone with actual experience.
> Tracy
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was one of those who participated in the mock emergency exit from the
>> plane in Baltimore some years ago. I believe that I was the only one with
>> a
>> dog guide. Here's how we did it and how the airline believed it should
>> work.
>> It worked fine. When you are instructed to proceed to the exit you do 
>> that
>> much as you would board and disembark from a plane. We exited from an 
>> exit
>> over the wing and took the slide down. When I came to the open door and
>> put
>> Zenith at sit at my side and sat on the floor on the door frame and put 
>> my
>> feet over the edge pointing the way we were going to slide then I sort of
>> half picked up and half coaxed him onto my lap and we slid down the slide
>> together. The flight attendant did interfere and try to pull me to do it
>> another way and I simply politely thanked him and said that I had it 
>> under
>> control. That's what I would have done in real life. Understanding that I
>> wasn't disrespecting the emergency procedure or the personnel but simply
>> that I didn't need him to either grab my arm or the dog because it wasn't
>> going to help me put the dog on my lap. The Hudson river incident was
>> different however because they were unable to inflate the slides and the
>> passengers were in fact on the wing proper. My husband and I were talking
>> about the Hudson River incident this morning.  I believe that I would 
>> have
>> teamed with other passengers and the personnel just as they did. I 
>> believe
>> that it would have been better to do so because finding the ship etc 
>> would
>> have been more difficult on my own. It must be the dog guide user's
>> responsibility to handle the dogs as long as we are able because we are
>> better able to do this. Basically, anyone in the emergency situation has
>> to
>> deal with the situation as it arises as best they can. I believe that it
>> is
>> helpful for me to have experienced the mock situation so that I have an
>> idea
>> of what it is like.
>>
>> Joy and Belle,
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of JULIE PHILLIPSON
>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:56 AM
>> To: NAGDU
>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: Emergency plane evacuation
>>
>>
>> second try
>>
>> Julie Phillipson
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Emergency plane evacuation
>>
>>
>>> Tracy I've often thought about that and thought it would be a good
>>> thing
>>> to do.  Perhaps if we could get an airline to cooperate this would be a
>>> project that NAGDU could take on.
>>>
>>> Julie Phillipson
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:54 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Emergency plane evacuation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Listening to news reports of yesterday's emergency plane evacuation
>>>> in
>>>> the
>>>> Hudson River, I was wondering how such things work with a guide dog.
>>>> The
>>>> news said people were holding onto the plane's wing, and some got
>>>> soaking
>>>> wet.  I was wondering how I would have done it with Ben.
>>>> The plane talks always mention a slide.  I've wondered about that, too.
>>>> I know, some years back, some Federationists did a mock plane
>>>> evacuation
>>>> to demonstrate that blind people could do it as efficiently as sighted
>>>> people.  I'm sure I could do it too.  I'd just like to have some idea,
>>>> beforehand if possible, what it's like so I could figure out a good way
>>>> to
>>>> work it with Ben.
>>>> Anyone have any more experience with it than I do?
>>>> I wonder if it might be useful to arrange a mock evacuation, with guide
>>>> dogs, maybe during convention or something?  I know Margo and Julie P
>>>> have
>>>> been doing a lot of work in New York, figuring out how emergency
>>>> workers
>>>> could work with guide dog users during a chemical contamination
>>>> emergency.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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