[nagdu] Impressions Please?

Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS) REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com
Wed Jul 29 17:34:44 UTC 2009 

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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Beverly Hunter
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:15 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

Where do you buy them?

From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" > Linda and list,
> Mutt Mits say they are biogradable. I've never tested one though but 
> it may be better then a plastic bag.
> Science fair experiment, anybody?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Linda Gwizdak
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:08 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>
> Joy, you're right to ask people to clean up after their dogs at your 
> home.
> You weren't snooty - that woman was!
>
> Marion, I think disabled people should be exempt from the pooper 
> scooper laws for one reason only. that is, occasionally, one cannot 
> find a trash bin to throw the poop into.You can't bring it on the bus!

> Before I get jumped on (grin!) I think we ALL should either pick up 
> after our dogs or have help in doing so. The only place I do not pick 
> up is out in the country where bagged poop would be more of a hazard 
> to wildlife than the poop itself.
>
> Back in January, I was busted for violating the pooper scooper law 
> when I picked up and then couldn't locate a trash bin.  Carrying 
> around crap isn't always an option. People are very offended if I 
> bring poop on the bus or into a store - IT STINKS!!  Especially 
> Landon's poop because it is usually a bit on the soft side and that 
> has much more of an odor than a hard stool.
> When I can't find a trash, I put the bagged poop off to the side, near

> a tree or bush so it doesn't get stepped in or rolled on by a car 
> trying to park. If I am just walking down the street, I'll carry the 
> poop until I find a trash can.
>
> I look at the exemption as a "backup" in the event I can't fulfil the 
> law.
> Sometimes getting help isn't an option when nobody is around to ask 
> for help in locating a can.
>
> You're right that so many people think we can't pick up after our own 
> dogs - the cop who busted me thought that I couldn't possibly be blind

> because I knew which end of the dog the poop came out of!  The cop was

> a jerk to refuse to assist me in finding a trash can.  I agree that 
> ALL service dog and guide dog users MUST pick up or be responsible in 
> finding help in doing this task. I hate stepping in poop and I assume 
> that most other people dispise this as well.
>
> Linda and Landon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>
>
>> Joy,
>>    I believe, as I have already stated, that it is our social and
> legal
>> responsibility to pick up after our dogs. I have been accused of 
>> being
> a
>> little "snooty", too, but I also believe that, if a person cannot
> perform
>> the basic duties of caring for their dog, including picking up after
> it,
>> they should not have a dog!
>>
>> fraternally,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>>
>>
>>> Thanks Mary. Sometimes I think that it is easy to become a little
> snooty
>>> about what one can and should do and I don't want to expect from
> someone
>>> what they can't do. Having said that, I think that there are ways to
> deal
>>> with one's short comings. We all have them, but we all don't deal
> with
>>> them
>>> in the best way. Also, I guess there are personalities. It just 
>>> makes
> me
>>> wonder what people think if someone from the public says "you
> shouldn't
>>> leave that for someone else". Do they think having a right, gives
> them an
>>> entitlement. Or, am I being too snobby?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Merry Schoch
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:45 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>>>
>>>
>>> Joy,
>>>
>>> I absolutely agree with you!!
>>>
>>> Merry
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:02 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I recently held a barbeque in my home. Several of the people who 
>>>>attended  were members of the NFB but not personal friends. I was 
>>>>purposed at the  behavior of one of my guests who is a dog guide 
>>>>user and would appreciate  some input as to best handle the 
>>>>situation next time.
>>>>
>>>> The barbeque was open to persons in the Northern Virginia area, 
>>>> basically doesn't matter where the people came from, but, I
> indicated
>>>> that dog guides were free to play free in the back yard which is 
>>>> fenced as long as they were supervised. In our back yard is a dog 
>>>> relieving area, since I happen
> to
>>>> use
>>>> a dog guide. Immediately adjacent to this area is a lined trash can

>>>> which was roll of bags for picking up after your dog attached to 
>>>> the
> handle.
>>>> My
>>>> husband, who happens to be sighted escorted one of our guests with
> her
>>>> dog
>>>> to his area. After her dog had relieved himself, my husband
> proceeded to
>>>> show the user where the bags were located so that she could pick up

>>>> after the dog. The user's response was "oh, I don't do that!". I 
>>>> wasn't
> there,
>>>> or
>>>> I probably would have worded the directions differently, after all,
> I am
>>>> the
>>>> main "pooper scooper" of the house, since it is my dog who leaves
> the
>>>> deposits. I personally feel that this particular guest was rude. I 
>>>> realize, that, when dogs are running free and playing it is 
>>>> difficult to know
>
>>>> where
>>>> something might need to be picked up. I believe that it is
> particularly
>>>> inappropriate for someone to assume, that someone else, especially
> if
>>>> they
>>>> are sighted, should be the one to "do the dirty work". I believe
> that
>>>> having
>>>> a dog guide, a child or any other responsibility means, that you,
> have
>>>> that
>>>> responsibility and that you need to take the initiative to clean up

>>>> after your dog, child etc. It is inappropriate to assume that 
>>>> others
> should do
>>>> this. Do other user agree with me? Am I totally in left field. I
> know
>>>> that
>>>> people have differing abilities, but being unwilling to even
> attempt, to
>>>> clean up after one's dog, seems particularly rude to me.
> Impressions,
>>>> opinions, observations, suggestions? a 
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