[nagdu] Impressions Please?

Thu Jul 30 14:34:13 UTC 2009

Rebecca,

I use Scoopies, which are the same idea.  They make it easier to feel around
for lumps in the grass without accidentally brushing the bag off your hand
just as you find what you're looking for.  They are also biodegradable.

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:23 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

Linda and list, 
Mutt Mits say they are biogradable. I've never tested one though but it
may be better then a plastic bag. 
Science fair experiment, anybody? 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Linda Gwizdak
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:08 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

Joy, you're right to ask people to clean up after their dogs at your
home. 
You weren't snooty - that woman was!

Marion, I think disabled people should be exempt from the pooper scooper
laws for one reason only. that is, occasionally, one cannot find a trash
bin to throw the poop into.You can't bring it on the bus!  Before I get
jumped on (grin!) I think we ALL should either pick up after our dogs or
have help in doing so. The only place I do not pick up is out in the
country where bagged poop would be more of a hazard to wildlife than the
poop itself.

Back in January, I was busted for violating the pooper scooper law when
I picked up and then couldn't locate a trash bin.  Carrying around crap
isn't always an option. People are very offended if I bring poop on the
bus or into a store - IT STINKS!!  Especially Landon's poop because it
is usually a bit on the soft side and that has much more of an odor than
a hard stool. 
When I can't find a trash, I put the bagged poop off to the side, near a
tree or bush so it doesn't get stepped in or rolled on by a car trying
to park. If I am just walking down the street, I'll carry the poop until
I find a trash can.

I look at the exemption as a "backup" in the event I can't fulfil the
law. 
Sometimes getting help isn't an option when nobody is around to ask for
help in locating a can.

You're right that so many people think we can't pick up after our own
dogs - the cop who busted me thought that I couldn't possibly be blind
because I knew which end of the dog the poop came out of!  The cop was a
jerk to refuse to assist me in finding a trash can.  I agree that ALL
service dog and guide dog users MUST pick up or be responsible in
finding help in doing this task. I hate stepping in poop and I assume
that most other people dispise this as well.

Linda and Landon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

> Joy,
>    I believe, as I have already stated, that it is our social and
legal 
> responsibility to pick up after our dogs. I have been accused of being
a 
> little "snooty", too, but I also believe that, if a person cannot
perform 
> the basic duties of caring for their dog, including picking up after
it, 
> they should not have a dog!
>
> fraternally,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>
>
>> Thanks Mary. Sometimes I think that it is easy to become a little
snooty
>> about what one can and should do and I don't want to expect from
someone
>> what they can't do. Having said that, I think that there are ways to
deal
>> with one's short comings. We all have them, but we all don't deal
with 
>> them
>> in the best way. Also, I guess there are personalities. It just makes
me
>> wonder what people think if someone from the public says "you
shouldn't
>> leave that for someone else". Do they think having a right, gives
them an
>> entitlement. Or, am I being too snobby?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Merry Schoch
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:45 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>>
>>
>> Joy,
>>
>> I absolutely agree with you!!
>>
>> Merry
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:02 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>>
>>
>>>I recently held a barbeque in my home. Several of the people who
>>>attended  were members of the NFB but not personal friends. I was
>>>purposed at the  behavior of one of my guests who is a dog guide user
>>>and would appreciate  some input as to best handle the situation next
>>>time.
>>>
>>> The barbeque was open to persons in the Northern Virginia area,
>>> basically doesn't matter where the people came from, but, I
indicated
>>> that dog guides were free to play free in the back yard which is
>>> fenced as long as they were
>>> supervised. In our back yard is a dog relieving area, since I happen
to
>>> use
>>> a dog guide. Immediately adjacent to this area is a lined trash can 
>>> which
>>> was roll of bags for picking up after your dog attached to the
handle. 
>>> My
>>> husband, who happens to be sighted escorted one of our guests with
her 
>>> dog
>>> to his area. After her dog had relieved himself, my husband
proceeded to
>>> show the user where the bags were located so that she could pick up 
>>> after
>>> the dog. The user's response was "oh, I don't do that!". I wasn't
there,
>>> or
>>> I probably would have worded the directions differently, after all,
I am
>>> the
>>> main "pooper scooper" of the house, since it is my dog who leaves
the
>>> deposits. I personally feel that this particular guest was rude. I
>>> realize,
>>> that, when dogs are running free and playing it is difficult to know

>>> where
>>> something might need to be picked up. I believe that it is
particularly
>>> inappropriate for someone to assume, that someone else, especially
if 
>>> they
>>> are sighted, should be the one to "do the dirty work". I believe
that
>>> having
>>> a dog guide, a child or any other responsibility means, that you,
have
>>> that
>>> responsibility and that you need to take the initiative to clean up 
>>> after
>>> your dog, child etc. It is inappropriate to assume that others
should do
>>> this. Do other user agree with me? Am I totally in left field. I
know 
>>> that
>>> people have differing abilities, but being unwilling to even
attempt, to
>>> clean up after one's dog, seems particularly rude to me.
Impressions,
>>> opinions, observations, suggestions? a
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