[nagdu] transportation

[Garry and Joy Relton]

Yes, it applies if the public is readily given access. I'm assuming if not
an exclusive membership thing. Anyway, many states have similar laws.
Besides which, common sense should tell folks that making church buildings
more accessible provides safety for people as they get older and better
access to parents with strollers and the like. It is expensive but there are
grants, and various programs to help. Sometimes, you just have to work out
other alternatives, just like people do in their homes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Linda Gwizdak
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:03 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation


Hi All,
When I was on our Church Council in San Diego, we discussed accessibility in

our buildings.  We were told that if we made major rennovations, we woould 
have to adhere to the ADA - which we can't afford to do, unfortunately.  We 
wanted to make our Parish House accessible but we can't afford the very 
major work of putting in an elevator.  Our buildings were built in the early

1930s with last major work done in the 1950s - way before ADA.  This being 
the case, I assume that the churches are also subject to ADA and all the 
access laws.  Hey, lawyers out there, what do you know on the subject 
(grin!)?

Our church has been excellent aboout the guide dogs - there are 5 dogs. 
They are regarded as members of the congregation and are just taken in 
stride - there are no problems at all. We even have a patch of grass for a 
relief area!

Dar, I'm sorry you're having such troubles with your church. Hopefully, 
they'll come around.

Linda and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation


>I know of a trainer who was workingwith a guide dog team in a church.
>Everything went ok until the preacher came out. The guide dog team were 
>ordered out of the building. Trainer was then called by church's lawyer and

>said that the church was a privately owned building  so the ADA didn't 
>apply. I don't know where this church is located, but was amazed when I 
>heard that. So was the trainer!!!! Upon hearing this, the guide dog team 
>switched churches and have had no trouble since as far as I know.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation
>
>
>>I asked if I could get help with cab fare, and they never wanted to 
>>cross
>>that bridge.
>> I am sure we can get something worked out.
>> I don't give up easy.
>> this is a problem for all of us from one time or another, where folks 
>> come up with ways to get things done.
>> So I asked to know how far can you go with a stand and when you need to 
>> stop asking.
>>
>> --
>> --Dar
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
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