[nagdu] church access

Tue Jun 2 22:24:24 UTC 2009

Hi,
In our church, we have a ramp to get into the sanctuary, church office, and 
Church Lounge. In our Parish House, we have one of those chairs that ride up 
a rail and it goes up the steps. We looked into a ramp to that building but 
it is too close to the curb to allow for the building of a proper ramp.  We 
have installed handrails outside.  So far, the disabled people in our 
congregation can walk a little or transfer to that chair.  Also, members 
help people get into that building.  For the dogs, we have a little patch of 
grass for their use.

We have a really small congregation of mostly seniors and we just don't have 
the resources to do the major rennovations to provide real access.

Someone mentioned grants for this purpose. What grants are these. I'd like 
to know so I can pass the info on to our Church Council members. Thanks.

Linda and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry and Joy Relton" <relton30857 at cox.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation

> Yes, it applies if the public is readily given access. I'm assuming if not
> an exclusive membership thing. Anyway, many states have similar laws.
> Besides which, common sense should tell folks that making church buildings
> more accessible provides safety for people as they get older and better
> access to parents with strollers and the like. It is expensive but there 
> are
> grants, and various programs to help. Sometimes, you just have to work out
> other alternatives, just like people do in their homes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Linda Gwizdak
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:03 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation
>
>
> Hi All,
> When I was on our Church Council in San Diego, we discussed accessibility 
> in
>
> our buildings.  We were told that if we made major rennovations, we woould
> have to adhere to the ADA - which we can't afford to do, unfortunately. 
> We
> wanted to make our Parish House accessible but we can't afford the very
> major work of putting in an elevator.  Our buildings were built in the 
> early
>
> 1930s with last major work done in the 1950s - way before ADA.  This being
> the case, I assume that the churches are also subject to ADA and all the
> access laws.  Hey, lawyers out there, what do you know on the subject
> (grin!)?
>
> Our church has been excellent aboout the guide dogs - there are 5 dogs.
> They are regarded as members of the congregation and are just taken in
> stride - there are no problems at all. We even have a patch of grass for a
> relief area!
>
> Dar, I'm sorry you're having such troubles with your church. Hopefully,
> they'll come around.
>
> Linda and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation
>
>
>>I know of a trainer who was workingwith a guide dog team in a church.
>>Everything went ok until the preacher came out. The guide dog team were
>>ordered out of the building. Trainer was then called by church's lawyer 
>>and
>
>>said that the church was a privately owned building  so the ADA didn't
>>apply. I don't know where this church is located, but was amazed when I
>>heard that. So was the trainer!!!! Upon hearing this, the guide dog team
>>switched churches and have had no trouble since as far as I know.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation
>>
>>
>>>I asked if I could get help with cab fare, and they never wanted to
>>>cross
>>>that bridge.
>>> I am sure we can get something worked out.
>>> I don't give up easy.
>>> this is a problem for all of us from one time or another, where folks
>>> come up with ways to get things done.
>>> So I asked to know how far can you go with a stand and when you need to
>>> stop asking.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Dar
>>> every saint has a past
>>> every sinner has a future
>>>
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