[nagdu] transportation

Tue Jun 2 22:19:56 UTC 2009

Dar,

After reading others' post, I think I misunderstood as far as the car goes. 
When I lost my sight, I intentionally found a church that was in walking 
distance.  I have been fortunate enough to have many people offer transport 
me to and from church.  Like Tami said earlier, they would rather cut off 
their arms than see me ride the bus; which is only a 5 minute ride.  I walk 
in 25 to 30 minutes and sometimes I just do it for the exercise.

I am sorry you are having problems.  It seems very sad that a congregation 
of people do not want to help out.  I hope you are able to find some help.

Again, if you feel you need to talk with Marion please call him.

Merry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Merry Schoch" <merrys at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation

> I, too, apologize if my post offended you.  Unfortunately, churches are 
> exempt from the law.  I am not sure why this is the case; however, I know 
> that clergy by law does not have to report abuse of a child - both 
> scenarios, in my eyes, are unjust.
>
> My husband, who is NAGDU's president is quite educated on access policies. 
> I know he would be happy to speak with you or respond to your post; 
> however, he has not been near his computer at all today and will not be 
> home until late this evening.  If you would like to speak with him you can 
> call him this evening at (813) 626 2789 after 8:45 EST.  He will be on the 
> bus headed home, but will not get home until after 10 PM, so he'll 
> certainly have time to speak with you.  He usually calls me when he is on 
> his way home and I will let him that there is a possibility you might call 
> him.
>
> Merry
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation
>
>
>> Dar,
>>
>> Oops!  I was one who didn't entirely understand the question.  I hope I
>> didn't come off inappropriate, and I apologize if I did.
>>
>> Anyway, I don't know the actual law when it comes to churches, but I've
>> heard it discussed here and know there are experts on the subject.  Also,
>> going to the president for a direct answer is an excellent idea.  /smile/
>>
>> You have my full support and best wishes!
>>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of d m gina
>> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:15 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] transportation
>>
>> My question was can we press charges against a church under the white
>> cane law for not allowing us to take the dog to church when it is a
>> public building?
>> Where do we have to stop drawing the line, since the double message is,
>> we are asking our dogs to be in public places, but it is OK for a
>> church to say no.
>> it is OK for folks to say no.
>> Yes we are asking for transportation in the winter, or if they go
>> across town having to close up the church.
>> do we have the rite to ask for help.
>> What I do in a car bringing the neighborhood doesn't have a problem here.
>> What I am hearing is that people don't want to take the time to help 
>> anyone.
>> It just isn't myself.
>> As long as you are an abled person you can go where you wish, but when
>> the day happens you can't then you need to be forgotten.
>> Maybe when instead of writing to a list where I felt support would be
>> needed to write to the president only.
>> Where my respect of questions would be answered.
>> Before I write anything to the Bishop I was trying to find out where I
>> stood on this and where I didn't and why.
>> Some of the comments on this list are quite rude, and I can see why
>> folks don't wish to join an organization of this nature.
>> 'Thank you so much for replying.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
>>
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