[nagdu] ID cards for sale online
Linda Gwizdak
linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Sun Jun 21 16:33:35 UTC 2009
Hi All,
I have been using guide dogs sinse 1973 and I can think of only a handful of
times I've been asked to show my school ID - and these times were all in the
1970s way before the ADA!
So, all my IDs from the schools just sit there in my wallet and then get
moved to a photo album when the dog retires! (grin!)
I think with 80 years of guide dogs, people just think "dog = blind". This
is more of a problem with partials who can see pretty good. It is much more
of a problem for a visually impaired person in a wheelchair. People don't
see as many of these folks. I come across tons of people in wheelchairs on
the busses, trolleys, and on the streets of San Diego. NONE of them have a
service dog! Disabled people using service dogs is much newer in concept
(1972 with CCI) than guide dogs. Disabled people have to go through what
Morris Frank went through (groan!) which, I think, shouldn't be happening.
Then you add in the mix those who look perfectly able bodied who have dogs.
And the fakers! I'm sorry that all you guys are going through lots of
troubles with access. You'd think people should be used to us all with dogs
and the laws that are there to protect us.
I think if the folks who make themselves stick out by bringing an untrained
or unsuitable dog into public - real service dog or not, real disabled
person or not - just invite problems. And cause problems for everyone else
with real service dogs.
A long time ago, before I got my first guide dog, I brought a pet dog on the
train into another state. I made a harness and walked with the dog with my
white cane! Nobody said "boo" about it. Everyone just assumed that it was a
real guide dog. How did I pull this off? This dog was very well behaved,
learned how to ride under the seat like wwe do with our guide dogs - and he
sorta guided me! He would watch my roommate's guide dog and imitated it!
This dog was a black Lab mix and very smart. He loved to ride the subway!
Back then all leashed dogs were welcome on the transit system as long as
they didn't cause problems.
This dog's undoing was being off leash. After I gave him to my family when
I went for a guide dog, he got loose, ran out in the street and got himself
killed. A real plug for off leash training! Had he had this and had I known
how to train for it, he would have lived a nice long doggy life.
Cheers,
Linda and Landon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bunny Davidson" <bunnydavidson at live.com>
To: "National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:29 PM
Subject: [nagdu] ID cards for sale online
hi all,
way back when i began using a service dog (over a dozen years and 2 dogs
ago) I had
gotten hastled so many times in malls, and stores, restarants et...
so i went online, saw the sites selling service dog id cards, jotted down
some notes,
went into photoshop and word perfect and designed my own.
First i stated on card that under the law
disabled people are not required to carry proof that dog is a service dog,
and a summary of the ADA service dog deal, the ADA 800#, and my name as
handler/owner.
and i put a photo of my service dog in vest on it,
I did not put my address as i felt that would be too much info for some of
these yo-yo's
(hey im a disabled woman and here is where i live, come get me!!!)lol
I then took the plastic fishing license holder with pin on back and shoved
the newly made ID card into it.
then i put it inside the zipper compartment of dogs service vest...
I always told folks (and still do) if they give me a hard time, ask for ID,
certification et.. that
the ADA says disabled people dont have to carry a card or proove we are
disabled and in fact
there is no LEGAL certification of service dogs in the entire USA...(school
certification is not federal usa certification)
If they are still all upity about it i produce the card, show them, ask them
to copy the 800# and to contact them for info on service dogs in places
of biz.. i tell them to ask dept of J to send them the documents on this so
they dont end up in civil court for violation of civil rights, or fines or
both.
I dont like the idea of producing a card because then folks think all people
with a service dog HAVE TO HAVE A CARD and if not, no admit to shop et...
I think if you have a SD ID card and feel the harrasment warrents display of
it,prequisit with "ada doesnt certify any dogs for service and furthr there
is no law requiring I carry an ID card.
just my 2cents...(please hold back the tomatoe flinging)...
bunny who is tired and still recouperating from the car wreck 8 weeks ago.
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