[nagdu] O&M, Ownership, & Leader

lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com
Tue Mar 3 01:33:19 UTC 2009


Got that right, Marion!!!

Linda and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M, Ownership, & Leader


> Jenine,
>    I believe that part of what NAGDU does is better inform graduates. 
> Unfortunately, many schools don't want graduates to be better informed 
> because a better informed consumer is a threat to the more custodial 
> programs. IMHO, "the more custodial programs" are those who do not 
> transfer ownership upon graduation. the longer one needs to wait for 
> ownership, the more custodial the program. Furthermore, the more strings 
> attached, i.e., medical reports, the more custodial the program. Those 
> programs that transfer ownership seem to view their blind graduates as 
> adults with the capacity to manage their own affairs, including the care 
> of their animals. If a blind person cannot even care for an animal, how 
> can we care for our children? Again, JMHO!
>
> Fraternally,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M, Ownership, & Leader
>
>
>> Marion,
>>
>> I'd assert that even when graduates have ownership, such as most GDF 
>> grads
>> do, people are far too hesitant to contact the school about problems. 
>> Some
>> are embarrassed. Some truly do think we can still take the dog away, even
>> though we explain what factors would cause this to happen and how rare it
>> is.
>>
>> Might we suggest retirement? Certainly, but we can't force the issue 
>> unless
>> some extremely serious things have already happened.
>>
>> I'm not sure I completely understand the behavior of not wanting to call 
>> the
>> school for fear of having a dog taken away when people do legally own the
>> dog, but it happens. I've sadly had to talk to people who waited way, way
>> too late to call and then the issues were far beyond fixing and the dogs 
>> had
>> to be retired. When asked why they didn't call sooner, many of these 
>> people
>> said they were afraid we'd take the dog away. Well, because we weren't 
>> able
>> to offer any help, in any form, the dog had to be retired, so, person 
>> calls
>> school, dog has to retire, calling school is bad? Stranger things have 
>> been
>> proposed.
>>
>>
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