[nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Sun May 17 00:01:53 UTC 2009

hello Marion and all.  I have had 3 dogs from GEB.  I have never  been 
afraid of them taking my dog.  I know most of the training staff there and I 
don't believe any of them would take a dog without it being a mutual 
decision.  GEB's policy is  that after 2 years you can apply for ownership 
if you want to.  We are asked to fill out a health and work report but it is 
not mandatory.  If you fill one out you get help with vet expenses of $300 
if you do not you get help of $250 per year again, if you want to take 
advantage of it No one forces you to use that money and I guess there are a 
lot of folks that do not.  .  There are many different training 
opportunities.  There are 2 instructors to 6 students accept for the NYC 
trip which is one on one.  There is 1. home training, 2. half at school and 
half at home training, and the whole course of 19 for retrains or 26 days at 
the training center in Yorktown Heights for new students.  About the dog 
that is under two years old I believe it is taken back to school and 
retrained if possible and given to someone else and if it must be re leased 
it is treated like a release dog from the program that is, release dogs are 
first offered to the puppy raiser before being on the adoption list which is 
a mile long.  By the way I have had 2 dogs that I have kept with me until it 
was time for them to go  and I intend to do that with Brewster unless 
something should happen before that that makes it impossible for him to stay 
with me.  .  I have never been pressured to retire my dog at a certain time 
although they do suggest by the age of 10 to start thinking about it.  When 
they turn 10 and every birthday after that Brewster gets a birthday card and 
a present from GEB not that he needs any more toys!  If someone decids to 
retire their dog and are not able to find a good home GEB will help to find 
a home for the dog  again only if you want them too.  Hope this helps to 
make it more clear.  I hope Marion that you would consider dropping this 
issue and stop pounding fear into perspective guide dog users minds.
Julie Phillipson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion & Martin" <swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
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Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison


> Ann,
>    This is not my understanding. I will need to look into this more
> closely, as this was the last report on ownership I had from them.
>
> Fraternally,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
>
>> Hello Marion,
>>
>>
>> Grads can receive ownership of their GEB dogs after two years. I don't
>> know
>> about any reports the school might ask the person to file after that.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Marion & Martin
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:47 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>> Tami,
>>    In addition to "urban training", please ask your friend to consider 
>> the
>> two schools' ownership policies. The Seeing Eye grants - and always has
>> for
>> the past eighty years - full ownership upon graduation. On the other 
>> hand,
>> Guiding Eyes for the blind does not grant ownership throughout the life 
>> of
>> the guide. In fact, even after retirement, students are required to 
>> submit
>> annual vetrinarian reports to the school. HTH!
>>
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:26 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>>
>>> Hey, all.  A friend was asking me some questions about guide dog 
>>> schools,
>>> and I had no clue to the answers, so I thought I would ask.  She wanted
>>> to
>>> know how Guiding Eyes and TSE compare when it comes to urban training 
>>> for
>>> both dog and handler, since both are near NYC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone been to both schools?  How would you compare the two?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>>
>>>
>>>
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