[nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Tue May 19 02:37:24 UTC 2009

And let's not even get into the whole"practicing" thing. Why do
lawyers and doctors practice their whole lives? Don't they ever reach
a point where they can stop practicing and start working? Do they ever
get it right? I suppose not, which is why they spend their whole time
practicing. Hmm. :)

Wayne

On 5/18/09, Linda Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
> Way to go, Angie!
>
> Linda and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes
> comparison
>
>
>> Congradulations Angie!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Angie Matney
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:57 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes
>> comparison
>>
>> Hi Craig,
>>
>> Thanks! The bar is around July 28-29 (need to look at my calendar to
>> remember the  exact dates). I am already doing Bar/Bri and PMBR.
>> Hopefully I will be ready when the time comes!
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of craig.borne at dot.gov
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:50 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes
>> comparison
>>
>>
>> Congratulations, Angie!  When do you sit for the bar?
>> Craig
>>
>> Craig Borne
>> NHTSA/DOT
>> (202) 493-0627
>> craig.borne at dot.gov
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Angie Matney
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:23 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>> Tina,
>>
>> I'm jealous! But I did have to get back because of school. (And on a
>> positive note, school is over! I graduated yesterday!) Most of my
>> training
>> with Yani happened during my break, and I only missed one week of class.
>> But
>> I'll bet you had a great training experience!
>>
>> Angie with Yani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of tina thomas
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:18 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>> Hey Angie-  How could I not stay. Pete Jackson one on one for one week.
>> It
>> was very cool
>>
>>
>> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
>> instead of
>> someone else's."
>> - Billy Wilder
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Angie Matney
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:14 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>> Hey Tina,
>>
>> In my group, there were two Seeing Eye retrains, a first-time guide-dog
>> handler, and me. I was very, very tempted to stay the extra week, but I
>> needed to get back to class. The first-timer in our group had the
>> instructor
>> all to himself for that last week, too. He said it was a great
>> opportunity.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of tina thomas
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 5:46 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>>>From what I understand, the instructor to student racial has changed
>>>over
>> the years, and students are receiving more individualized instruction.
>> When
>> I attended the Seeing Eye back in Feb, there were four of us in my
>> group.
>> All but me had received from the Eye prior, So the last week of class, I
>> had
>> the instructor to myself.
>> Tina
>>
>>
>> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
>> instead of
>> someone else's."
>> - Billy Wilder
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Haben Girma
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:30 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>>
>> Angie, that's really interesting. I would have actually assume that
>> training
>> would be more individualized at GEB since GEB has a smaller class size
>> and a
>> smaller student to instructor ratio.
>>
>> Haben
>>
>> Angie Matney wrote:
>>> Hi Tami,
>>>
>>> The training at TSE is similar. I obviously can't compare it to GEB,
>>> but I will say that what I liked about TSE was that it was very
>>> individualized. At my first school, all students went into the city on
>>
>>> the same day. At TSE, we went in groups. I only went to NYC once, but
>>> other students went more often, depending on their needs. Maybe Ann or
>>
>>> another GEB grad could speak to scheduling at GEB.
>>>
>>> Angie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Ann Chiappetta
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:33 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>>
>>> Hi Tammy;
>>> I'm a recent GEB grad and I believe I've gotten great urban training.
>>> We were out five days a week for three weeks in downtown White Plains,
>>
>>> NY, a busy city with plenty of obstacles, like rounded sidewalk  ramps
>>
>>> buses,,complicated crossings,  scaffolding, and people and other
>>> dogs.We trained in NYC only one day but it was great as I got
>>> train/subway training and felt the safest I've felt in the subway
>>> since
>> losing my sight.
>>>
>>> I live in a suburban/urban setting and Verona's city skills are spot
>>> on. We don't have much need for country walking so I make sure I take
>>> her on side streets just to keep her skills up. But her shorelining
>>> skills are good, too.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:26 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey, all.  A friend was asking me some questions about guide dog
>>>> schools, and I had no clue to the answers, so I thought I would ask.
>>>> She wanted to know how Guiding Eyes and TSE compare when it comes to
>>>> urban training for both dog and handler, since both are near NYC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone been to both schools?  How would you compare the two?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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