[nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Tue May 19 03:52:56 UTC 2009

And if they practice at the bar what does that indicate?  They can't even
drink without practicing?  Hmmmm.

Just remember that you're not really drunk if you can lay down there on the
floor without hanging on.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:37 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes
comparison

And let's not even get into the whole"practicing" thing. Why do
lawyers and doctors practice their whole lives? Don't they ever reach
a point where they can stop practicing and start working? Do they ever
get it right? I suppose not, which is why they spend their whole time
practicing. Hmm. :)

Wayne

On 5/18/09, Linda Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
> Way to go, Angie!
>
> Linda and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes
> comparison
>
>
>> Congradulations Angie!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Angie Matney
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 12:57 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes
>> comparison
>>
>> Hi Craig,
>>
>> Thanks! The bar is around July 28-29 (need to look at my calendar to
>> remember the  exact dates). I am already doing Bar/Bri and PMBR.
>> Hopefully I will be ready when the time comes!
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of craig.borne at dot.gov
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:50 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes
>> comparison
>>
>>
>> Congratulations, Angie!  When do you sit for the bar?
>> Craig
>>
>> Craig Borne
>> NHTSA/DOT
>> (202) 493-0627
>> craig.borne at dot.gov
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Angie Matney
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:23 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>> Tina,
>>
>> I'm jealous! But I did have to get back because of school. (And on a
>> positive note, school is over! I graduated yesterday!) Most of my
>> training
>> with Yani happened during my break, and I only missed one week of class.
>> But
>> I'll bet you had a great training experience!
>>
>> Angie with Yani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of tina thomas
>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:18 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>> Hey Angie-  How could I not stay. Pete Jackson one on one for one week.
>> It
>> was very cool
>>
>>
>> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
>> instead of
>> someone else's."
>> - Billy Wilder
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Angie Matney
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:14 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>> Hey Tina,
>>
>> In my group, there were two Seeing Eye retrains, a first-time guide-dog
>> handler, and me. I was very, very tempted to stay the extra week, but I
>> needed to get back to class. The first-timer in our group had the
>> instructor
>> all to himself for that last week, too. He said it was a great
>> opportunity.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of tina thomas
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 5:46 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>>>From what I understand, the instructor to student racial has changed
>>>over
>> the years, and students are receiving more individualized instruction.
>> When
>> I attended the Seeing Eye back in Feb, there were four of us in my
>> group.
>> All but me had received from the Eye prior, So the last week of class, I
>> had
>> the instructor to myself.
>> Tina
>>
>>
>> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
>> instead of
>> someone else's."
>> - Billy Wilder
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Haben Girma
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:30 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>>
>> Angie, that's really interesting. I would have actually assume that
>> training
>> would be more individualized at GEB since GEB has a smaller class size
>> and a
>> smaller student to instructor ratio.
>>
>> Haben
>>
>> Angie Matney wrote:
>>> Hi Tami,
>>>
>>> The training at TSE is similar. I obviously can't compare it to GEB,
>>> but I will say that what I liked about TSE was that it was very
>>> individualized. At my first school, all students went into the city on
>>
>>> the same day. At TSE, we went in groups. I only went to NYC once, but
>>> other students went more often, depending on their needs. Maybe Ann or
>>
>>> another GEB grad could speak to scheduling at GEB.
>>>
>>> Angie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Ann Chiappetta
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:33 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>>
>>> Hi Tammy;
>>> I'm a recent GEB grad and I believe I've gotten great urban training.
>>> We were out five days a week for three weeks in downtown White Plains,
>>
>>> NY, a busy city with plenty of obstacles, like rounded sidewalk  ramps
>>
>>> buses,,complicated crossings,  scaffolding, and people and other
>>> dogs.We trained in NYC only one day but it was great as I got
>>> train/subway training and felt the safest I've felt in the subway
>>> since
>> losing my sight.
>>>
>>> I live in a suburban/urban setting and Verona's city skills are spot
>>> on. We don't have much need for country walking so I make sure I take
>>> her on side streets just to keep her skills up. But her shorelining
>>> skills are good, too.
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:26 AM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey, all.  A friend was asking me some questions about guide dog
>>>> schools, and I had no clue to the answers, so I thought I would ask.
>>>> She wanted to know how Guiding Eyes and TSE compare when it comes to
>>>> urban training for both dog and handler, since both are near NYC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone been to both schools?  How would you compare the two?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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