[nagdu] racism

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Tue May 19 18:09:54 UTC 2009


Linda,
I don't know.  She is a woman of great common sense, not the sort to
imagine things, and definitely a person to stand up for her rights. 
Though I don't know what she was like more than 50 years ago.  If I think
of it, I'll ask her if she could see back then, next time I talk to her. 
Or perhaps people back then thought a woman did not need a dog as much as
a man, so women were treated differently.  But she thinks it was because
she's black.  Leader accepted her, and she's been happy with them ever
since.
Tracy


> Hi Tracy,
> I was surprized to hear about your friend who was turned down from TSE in
> the 1950s because she was black. This is very surprizing since Morris
> Frank
> was raised in a progressive family who was friends with George Washington
> Carver, a black professor who revolutionized the growing practices of
> peanuts.  Carver was a frequent guest at the Morris home in the days when
> Southern whites NEVER had blacks in their homes unless the black person
> was
> cleaning that home!
>
> Did this lady have usable vision, maybe? The Seeing Eye did not accept
> people with any usable vision until sometime in either the '70s or early
> '80s.  Could the racial bias be a perception by the lady?
>
> Now, before people of color jump all over me, there are non white people
> who
> seem to pull the "racist card" every time they have a disagreement with
> you.
> There is this black woman in our blind community here who actually does
> this. She said to me that we were all racist at our blind center - no
> reason, we just were!  Sure, we have ONE person who seems to teeter on the
> edge of that abyss but we are a pretty multi racial and multi cultural
> blind
> center.  It is the black people who seem to prefer to all sit together at
> a
> table but they certainly don't care if I choose to sit there with
> them(grin!)  I was raised all my life to care more about what kind of
> person
> one is rather than what color they are. I sit at the tables with guide dog
> users because many of the non dog users don't like the dogs under their
> feet.  So, we don't sit there and listen to them bitch about the dogs!
>
> Anyway, I don't know any schools today who would pull a racist attack on
> anyone now.  As a white Californian, I am definately in the minority - and
> that's OK!
>
> Linda and Landon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] vet reports and other issues
>
>
>>I wonder if it would be useful to also say when these incidents happened.
>> Maybe what happened 20-30 years ago is still relevant to a school now,
>> and
>> maybe not.
>> For instance, a friend of mine says that in 1952 TSE turned down her
>> application because she is black.  This surprises me, because I've read
>> about black men being in class in the '40's, but on the other hand, my
>> friend is a person of great integrity.
>> Anyway, if it's so it wasn't right. But it wouldn't happen today.
>> In the same way, something that happened 30 years ago could be
>> completely
>> different now.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
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