[nagdu] Dogs listening

Mon Oct 19 19:14:34 UTC 2009

Laura,

I would hope that you will be able to work things out with your current dog
and your life style, but you dog could have a medical problems, a behavioral
problem or be picking up on your stress. Or, for that matter, a combination
of all. I'd suggest you consult with your trainer and your vet at first.
Then, if you can find a reliable sounding board to help you deal with the
stress. You could end up sick if your life is too stressful. Hugs to you and
pats for the pup. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Lora
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 11:50 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs listening

I do have a very busy stressful lifestyle.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Albert J Rizzi
<albert at myblindspot.org>wrote:

> Well said joy.  I would add that I have been advised  to no longer 
> refer to a service dog as a "seeing eye dog" but to refer to them as 
> guide dogs.  I believe this has to do with the foundation in new 
> jersey which goes without saying. I find that it gives others the 
> impression that all dogs come from the seeing eyes foundation. What is 
> your take on this?  I would also suggest to you laura, that when 
> confronted by others about your corrections to your guide dog, you 
> might offer them a phone number to the foundation which provided  you 
> your guide so that they could take the time to educate all interested 
> parties in the finer aspects  of guide dog handleing  and procedures.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York  10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one 
> who is doing it."
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Joy Relton
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:07 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs listening
>
> Laura,
>
> I don't know you well enough to know your intent from your words. From 
> the outside they sound a bit harsh but you may just be stating things 
> as a fact and no further meaning. However, having said that, I take 
> exception to the idea that corrections are to show the dog who is 
> boss. From my point of view a correction is to tell the dog that a 
> given behavior is not appropriate or acceptable and to guide the dog 
> to perform in a manner which is acceptable. I was taught in my first 
> class for a Seeing Eye Dog, that you need to have a
> balance of correction, affection and praise. It is not a matter of who is
> boss it's simply a matter of "no, that's not the way I need you to show
me,
> or do things" and then show them that this is the way you want. Of course,
> each dog responds to different messages differently and each persons way
of
> expressing their view to their dog and to others varies. The most
important
> points are that you and your dog are a good working team who can
> effectively
> and safely travel together and interact with the public in an appropriate
> manner. As far as other people's opinions and comments about your
> correction
> of your dog: it's their opinion, and like a behind, everyone has one. You
> can't let their comments make you fill with anger and become defensive
> because you are the loser not them. How you handle their comments is up to
> you. If you are one that likes to lighten things with humor, do it. If you
> are one that needs to do your thing and say nothing, do it. Just remember
> that your opinion and feelings are the only ones over which you have
> control. Having said that, I will say that sometimes listening to the
> comments may give you some enlightenment as to the public's perceptions or
> the effectiveness of the technique. Sometimes, the people simply lack
> knowledge and don't want to learn, so you have to simply do your thing and
> let them be upset or get over it. As Frank Sinatra said "That's Life".
>
> Good luck. I hope that you have found a few friends in your church who 
> do understand about the training. If not, maybe you could talk to the 
> pastor/leadership of the church about giving a presentation about the 
> training and proper treatment of dog guides. I've had to have signs 
> posted in the church before reminding people that they may not touch, 
> talk to or otherwise distract the dog while it is working. It helped.
>
> Give your four-legged pal a pat and a hug for me.
>
> Joy with Belle who thinks the world is a friend that she hasn't made 
> yet.
>
>
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Lora and Trice
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