[nagdu] bad to worse

[Cindy Ray]

Laura, I want to wish you all the best both with the visit from Leader and 
with your discernment as you decide what to do next. We each have had our 
experiences with dogs. Many have been difficult, but this one is yours 
alone, your special and unique one. We can support you in a lot of ways, but 
I, personally, have nothing to add except that you are in my thoughts and 
prayers. I have a bit of a history of returning dogs; none of my experiences 
was like yours. This is tough, so know we are here to support you.

Cindy Lou

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lora" <blindhistory at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] bad to worse


My trainer said that I should not work the dog and that Leader would be out
in about a week. Hopefully they will be helpful. I haven't really
experienced alot of good from leader so I can't say if they are a fine
school or not. From my experience I would disagree greatly.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Joy Relton <jrelton at verizon.net> wrote:

> Beautifully put, Tami. There really are a lot of things to consider. I've
> been therewith a dog who had hepatitis I there were days when he really
> couldn't work safely because he just wasn't felling well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:26 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] bad to worse
>
>
> Lora,
>
> This must be so heartbreaking for you!  Not to mention terrifying.
>
> Do let us know how the school responds.  Meanwhile, it's probably time to
> break out the white cane.  Things are starting to sound pretty dangerous.
>
> Who knows how Trice would be without his chronic health problems.  When
> Mitzi was having her serial UTIs, I finally figured out there were times
> she
> just shouldn't work.  Which was frustrating, since it really impeded our
> team building process.  I would take her along with me to work on 
> etiquette
> and obedience out of harness, but having cane in one hand and dog in the
> other isn't always workable.  We never did figure out what was causing
> them,
> but we're nearly a year since the last one, and I still live in fear of
> going through all that again.  Ugh!  But her work would suffer and she
> would
> take to wandering and would get grumpy and guardy in harness.  And 
> anxious.
> I had known her in good health, so I knew it wasn't her norm, but it was
> still hard to determine if she was coming up with a behavioral problem or
> if
> she was sick again until the accidents started.  Sigh.
>
> I don't see what you can do if the school won't take responsibility for 
> the
> vet bills so that you can get him healthy again without going broke.  And
> until he's healthy again, how can you know what kind of guide dog he would
> be if he were well?  If the problem is the underlying illness, training
> won't solve it.
>
> I wish I could give you something helpful, but all I can do is send you
> long-distance hugs and well wishes.  Pass a few on to Trice.
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Lora
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 4:35 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] bad to worse
>
> I was walking to school and Trice took me out into traffic 3 times in a
> mile. I thought he was guiding at first because there is alot of cars on
> the
> side of the street and such but he kept on walking across the street in 
> the
> middle of the block. I just emailed my trainer so we'll see what she says.
> I
> know that me being frustrated isn't helping Trice any but I've had 
> problems
> since training. Sigh he's becoming a safety risk.
>
> Is it common that dogs just decide to do their own thing like that? What 
> is
> first year of working with a dog supposed to be like?
>
> --
> Lora and Trice
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Lora and Trice
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