[nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness

Lora blindhistory at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 01:21:25 UTC 2009


Steve
In the LDS (Mormon) community) service animals are not allowed in temples at
all. I haven't had any issues with church, but I can't take my dog into the
temple at all. It is specifically written on the church website. www.lds.org

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Steve Johnson <
stevencjohnson at centurytel.net> wrote:

> This is great, but what we do need to watch for, and it is sometimes
> difficult to find, but if that religious organization receives any level of
> federal or state funding say for school lunch programs for instance, this
> will change their requirement to that of a title II entity.  Also, we do see
> many religious organizations serve as meal sites for senior meals which do
> get their funding through this mechanism, or perhaps provide free meals to
> the general public and advertise to the general public like we see here in
> our community, this too can now change their responsibility to that of a
> title III entity.  Very tricky, as it is not always what meets the eye.
> However, if we are just speaking about Sunday services, this may be just
> exactly what it is written as and that is an exempt religious entity.  If
> you need clarification, contact your DBTAC at 1.800.949.4232.
>
> I have worked with many individuals with service animal issues, and I have
> yet to hear where a religious entity denies someone wita service animal
> access.  The www.deltasociety.org site has some good info that defines
> service animal, therapy animal, emotional support and companion animal all
> being very different in terms of how each of their functions are defined.
> Then, we get into the whole public space issue, which if I am guessing
> correctly from the previous correspondences, you may be mistaking that being
> covered under the ADA when we are talking Fair Housing Amendments act issues
> and public spaces in public housing.  Yep, these are required to be
> accessible, but not the churches unless built after 1992 where new
> construction provisions apply and this is specifically looking at the
> architectural accessibility.
>
> Whew!
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion & Martin" <
> swampfox1833 at verizon.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
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> Jenine,
>>   The Americans with Disabilities Act specifically exempts religious
>> organizations. The pertinent section is pasted below.
>>
>> SEC. 307. EXEMPTIONS FOR PRIVATE CLUBS AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.
>>
>>
>>
>> 42 USC 12187.
>>
>>
>>
>> The provisions of this title shall not apply to private clubs or
>> establishments exempted from coverage under title II of the Civil Rights
>> Act
>> of 1964 (42
>>
>> U.S.C. 2000- a(e)) or to religious organizations or entities controlled by
>> religious organizations, including places of worship.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>>
>> Marion
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
>>
>>
>> Technically, I believe churches do need to comply with the ADA in the
>>> spaces
>>> open to the general public. I could be wrong on that one, but I'm pretty
>>> sure it is correct.
>>>
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> jeninems at wowway.com
>>>
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