[nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness

[Dan Weiner]

Any reason given for this stricture other than those on high deciding
against service animals in a temple?

Dan W.

 

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Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness

Steve
In the LDS (Mormon) community) service animals are not allowed in temples at
all. I haven't had any issues with church, but I can't take my dog into the
temple at all. It is specifically written on the church website. www.lds.org

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Steve Johnson <
stevencjohnson at centurytel.net> wrote:

> This is great, but what we do need to watch for, and it is sometimes 
> difficult to find, but if that religious organization receives any 
> level of federal or state funding say for school lunch programs for 
> instance, this will change their requirement to that of a title II 
> entity.  Also, we do see many religious organizations serve as meal 
> sites for senior meals which do get their funding through this 
> mechanism, or perhaps provide free meals to the general public and 
> advertise to the general public like we see here in our community, 
> this too can now change their responsibility to that of a title III
entity.  Very tricky, as it is not always what meets the eye.
> However, if we are just speaking about Sunday services, this may be 
> just exactly what it is written as and that is an exempt religious 
> entity.  If you need clarification, contact your DBTAC at 1.800.949.4232.
>
> I have worked with many individuals with service animal issues, and I 
> have yet to hear where a religious entity denies someone wita service 
> animal access.  The www.deltasociety.org site has some good info that 
> defines service animal, therapy animal, emotional support and 
> companion animal all being very different in terms of how each of their
functions are defined.
> Then, we get into the whole public space issue, which if I am guessing 
> correctly from the previous correspondences, you may be mistaking that 
> being covered under the ADA when we are talking Fair Housing 
> Amendments act issues and public spaces in public housing.  Yep, these 
> are required to be accessible, but not the churches unless built after 
> 1992 where new construction provisions apply and this is specifically 
> looking at the architectural accessibility.
>
> Whew!
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion & Martin" < 
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> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> < nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
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> Jenine,
>>   The Americans with Disabilities Act specifically exempts religious 
>> organizations. The pertinent section is pasted below.
>>
>> SEC. 307. EXEMPTIONS FOR PRIVATE CLUBS AND RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS.
>>
>>
>>
>> 42 USC 12187.
>>
>>
>>
>> The provisions of this title shall not apply to private clubs or 
>> establishments exempted from coverage under title II of the Civil 
>> Rights Act of 1964 (42
>>
>> U.S.C. 2000- a(e)) or to religious organizations or entities 
>> controlled by religious organizations, including places of worship.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>>
>> Marion
>>
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenine Stanley" 
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>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
>>
>>
>> Technically, I believe churches do need to comply with the ADA in the
>>> spaces
>>> open to the general public. I could be wrong on that one, but I'm 
>>> pretty sure it is correct.
>>>
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> jeninems at wowway.com
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