[nagdu] Gary's future dog

GARY STEEVES rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca
Thu Sep 17 18:44:49 UTC 2009 

Hi Tracy:

I knew my lab comment would get a response. :) It's more from reading  Marly and Me was where I get that silly thought. No, I am needing a poodle for it's lack of shedding. I'm glad to hear that they adapt okay to the time changes. You know when things are new we worry about silly things.

Gary


----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:39 am
Subject: [nagdu] Gary's future dog
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>

> Hi Gary.
> I live in New Jersey, and until recently got my dogs in 
> California.  None
> of them seemed to have a big problem with the time difference 
> when we got
> home.  Dogs are almost always ready to eat something, 
> whenever it's
> presented to them.
> For that matter, I changed Ben's schedule from the one we had in 
> class to
> one that suited my routine better.  Dogs are very adaptable.
> 
> And labs are not a hurricane waiting to happen! <smile>
> 
> Good luck with your applications.
> Tracy
> 
> > Hello Tamara:
> >
> > Thanks for the nice comments. Yes, I am a person who likes 
> to  invision
> > how things are going to go to try and make big changes less 
> dramatic. Of
> > course, nothing is ever totally like I think it will be but the
> > preplanning usually helps deal with these moments as well.
> >
> > Yes, I am still getting a poodle. I think I am now leaning 
> more towards a
> > poodle rather than a lab-poodle cross. I have applied at guide 
> dogs of the
> > desert and am just sending inthe last bits and pieces to guide dog
> > foundation. I also just learned that canine vision canada uses 
> poodles as
> > well and will have some  ready for placing as early as 
> next winter so I
> > think I will apply to them too.
> >
> > The one downside with guide dogs of the desert is that 
> apparently their
> > finances are still a bit low meaning that the student has to 
> pay for the
> > expense of getting to them and home again. I  speculate 
> that raising this
> > money shouldn't be too hard but it is the one negative about 
> that school.
> > The thing I like about them though is that they are in the 
> same time zone
> > as I am. I keep hearing about how it is importatn to keep the 
> dogs routine
> > from school days when you return home. This will be pretty hard
> > considerint two of the schools I am applying to are in the 
> eastern time
> > zone, 3 hours ahead of me.
> >
> >>From talking with people and reading comments from people like 
> you with a
> >> poodle, they seem like pretty neat dogs. I live in an 
> apartment so I also
> >> think a poodle will be more suited to that sort of space. 
> More on the
> >> delicate side than the romping into a room, with destruction 
> at hand
> >> which often follow labs. <chuckle>
> >
> > So I will keep asking questions, reading and learning and hope 
> that I will
> > be ready when the big day comes.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:11 pm
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide 
> Dog Users'"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >
> >> Gary,
> >>
> >> Sounds to me like you've both got it!  I'm sure your new
> >> dog won't mind
> >> having an extra dose of attention and adoration at all. /grin/
> >>
> >> Are you still looking for poodle or poodle cross?  I hear
> >> the wait is still
> >> long, but you will find yourself with a whole lot of non-shedding,
> >> hypoallergenic energy and fun.  Er...  And a good
> >> worker, too, of course.
> >> /grin/  It's really great that you worked things out a home
> >> before bringing
> >> the dog in.  Poodles do tend to be sensitive to mood and
> >> atmosphere, so
> >> getting any cause for tension at home out of the way is
> >> important.  I really
> >> lucked out to find a roommate who is so even-tempered, low
> >> drama, likes
> >> peace and quiet around the house as much as I do.  A couple
> >> of weeks ago,
> >> our attempt to help an old friend of his get back on his feet
> >> resulted in
> >> some heavy, albeit brief, tension, and Mitzi had a total
> >> meltdown.  She
> >> collapsed on her bed and didn't move until I noticed she was
> >> practicallycatatonic.  Yikes!  I had to snuggle her
> >> for about an hour, then I called a
> >> friend that Mitzi loves whom I knew would be awake and put her
> >> on speaker
> >> while we talked and laughed until Mitzi perked up and begin
> >> obnoxiouslydemanding that I play ball with her.
> >> /lol/  Podle cured!  Needless to say,
> >> the person who created all the fuss and bother has been
> >> unfriended.  Sad,
> >> but necessary.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I commend your and your girlfriend's ability to work
> >> things out and
> >> respect each other's wishes and happiness.  Best of luck!
> >>
> >> Tami Smith-Kinney
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On Behalf
> >> Of GARY STEEVES
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:43 AM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
> >>
> >> Hello Everyone:
> >>
> >> This topic comes at a good time for me. I am applying for a
> >> guide dog as we
> >> speak. My girlfriend has expressed concerns about how things
> >> will work with
> >> the new guide dog. She is very much a dog person and doesn't
> >> want to be left
> >> out of the loop when it comes to enjoying a dog in the
> >> family.
> >>
> >> My understanding is that when the dog is not in harness it is a
> >> pet dog. As
> >> long as my girlfriend reinforces  what I am doing with
> >> regards to commands
> >> and rules everything should be fine (taking into consideration
> >> what people
> >> have said previously about the dogs personality itself). Is this
> >> correct? I
> >> want us to be enjoy having a dog in the family as much as I want
> >> me to
> >> benefit from it's special skills.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Gary
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:57 am
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
> >> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> >> Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>
> >> > Chastity,
> >> >
> >> > Oh, I totally agree with you.  I think it is much, much
> >> > better for the dog
> >> > to play and socialize in its off duty time.  And that a
> >> > happier, more
> >> > mentally healthy dog witll make a better guide.  I was
> >> > pretty picky about
> >> > how people played with Mitzi whenshe was young, and now I just
> >> expect> general civility -- no teasing or undo rough
> >> housing.  But
> >> > I'm always
> >> > thrilled when she's playing with people.  I have yet to
> >> see
> >> > that it affects
> >> > her bond with me in the slightest.
> >> >
> >> > Tami Smith-Kinney
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
> >> bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> > On Behalf
> >> > Of Chasity Jackson
> >> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:08 PM
> >> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> >> > Subject: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
> >> >
> >> > Hey all,
> >> >
> >> > After having a discussion with a friend this afternoon, who is
> >> a
> >> > first time
> >> > guide dog owner, I wanted to ask this question, just for
> >> > curiosity's sake.
> >> >
> >> > How many of you believe that if you let your dog bond with
> >> > family and
> >> > friends, that means that you aren't a good guide dog user and
> >> > owner? This
> >> > person told me that he does not let his family interact with
> >> his
> >> > dog for
> >> > more than a few seconds. Now I totally respect everyone's
> >> right
> >> > to be
> >> > different, and I respect his right to do that, but then he
> >> went
> >> > so far as to
> >> > say that I don't act like I know how to use a guide dog
> >> because
> >> > I said that
> >> > I see nothing wrong with family and friends playing with your
> >> > dog when
> >> > they're at your house. Now, I'm not talking about when the dog
> >> > is in
> >> > harness, or if you're out running errands, etc. Of course, I
> >> am
> >> > a stickler
> >> > for that, when your dog is working, he or she is working and
> >> > should not be
> >> > bothered. I am talking about if your buddy comes over on
> >> Sunday
> >> > afternoon to
> >> > watch football, and wants to sit on the floor and bond with
> >> your
> >> > dog, or
> >> > maybe throw a ball, etc. I personally don't see anything wrong
> >> > with that
> >> > after the bonding stages are over, and as long as your dog
> >> isn't
> >> > a brand new
> >> > dog that is still trying to bond with you. Not that anyone's
> >> > responses will
> >> > change my mind, but I was just curious to see how many people
> >> > agree with me
> >> > and how many agree with him. Just a topic of discussion here
> >> on
> >> > the list.
> >> >
> >> > Chasity
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