[nagdu] Interpreter Services

Maurice Mines minesm at me.com
Wed Sep 23 18:41:37 UTC 2009


hi this issue  is being delt with that all that I am saying on list.  
ps we are not forgetting her. maurice ham call sine kd0iko.
On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Cindy Ray wrote:

> Yeah, Peter, I have to come down with Angie on this one. I think as  
> we have
> more people with these kinds of needs, it is important that the NFB  
> deal
> with those. Look! Does that make her feel like a part of us if she  
> has to do
> that herself as a part of the "Federation Fammily?" That's like your  
> having
> to find a way to get a Braille program for a concert because they  
> don't
> provide it. If a person has someone available to her to do this  
> service,
> that's all well and good, but I think that kiind of attitude is both  
> high
> handed and not very welcoming. I hope you will give that a little  
> thought
> and think how it really does sound.
>
> Sincerely,
> Cindy Lou Ray
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Interpreter Services
>
>
> Peter,
>
> I suppose NFB should stop providing Braille agendas; those who need  
> them can
> bring their own.
>
> I suppose NFB shouldn't provide childcare; those who need it can  
> spring for
> the cost of the sitter's extra plane ticket.
>
> I suppose NFB and NAGDU shouldn't provide relief areas; those who  
> need them
> can find their own.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On  
> Behalf
> Of Peter Donahue
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:46 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Interpreter Services
>
> Hello Roxy and listers,
>
>    What she says is true concerning NAGDU. Mary and I personally  
> helped her
>
> find someone. We were able to get a friend of ours who is a  
> federationist,
> and incidentally an employee of the Anatole Hilton to sign for her  
> during
> the NAGDU Meetings.
>
>    As I recall you were able to hear enough to respond to questions.  
> I know
>
> because we communicated that way all be it at close range. The NFB  
> does
> provide hearing enhancement for the general sessions. You must pay a  
> fee for
>
> the service but if it will help you hear for those meetings  
> hopefully that
> would reduce your need for an interpreter. You're given a  
> transmitter and an
>
> ear piece to wear rather than your regular hearing aids. The signal  
> from the
>
> p.a. system in the room is piped directly to you via the  
> transmitter. I'd
> strongly suggest looking in to that if you plan to come to Dallas  
> next year.
>
> And you can count on us to help you find an interpreter for the  
> NAGDU and
> possibly other meetings.
>
>    The other issue I want to raise is that of responsibility. We can  
> talk
> about what the ACB and NFB do, or don't do when it comes to  
> providing such
> services. Ultimately it comes down to our taking responsibility for
> procuring these services for ourselves. Here in is a difference  
> between the
> ACB and the NFB. One provides interpretation services to the deaf- 
> blind
> without requiring them to secure it themselves. The other urges the
> deaf-blind to find creative ways of locating, securing, and if  
> necessary
> paying interpreters. This is not unlike the difference between feeding
> someone a fish or teaching them how to fish. The former will take  
> care of
> you for a day while the latter will enable you to fish for a lifetime.
> Herein is the difference. Until these differences can be molded in   
> to a
> single approach any idea of working together just, isn't, possible!
>
>    Do you have someone that could come with you to interpret? do you  
> have
> family, friends, or know of organizations in the Dallas area that  
> could
> provide this service for you?
>
>    While it would be a great service for the NFB to provide  
> interpreters
> for all deafblind persons who attend the convention at the end of  
> the day
> the responsibility falls on the deafblind individual himself- 
> herself. This
> is no different than a guide dog user expecting someone to pick up  
> after
> their dog during the convention or their being responsible and  
> cleaning up
> after their own dog. Okay I'm done.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Pawpower Pack" <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] convention 2010 ???
>
>
> One of the reasons I'll go back to ACB conventions is that they
> provide interpreters for Deafblind attendees.  This last year, I went
> to workshops, meetings and the exhibit hall and had interpreters with
> me upon my request.
>
> Both myself and other Deafblind people have tried unsuccessfully to
> get these same accommodations from NFB and have not been successful.
> I went to one convention where I tried to speak with a member of the
> Deafblind group (who was hearing) so I could address these issues.
> She did not sign and there were no other interpreters present at the
> boot the facilitate communication.
>
> Honestly, I'd like to go to an NFB convention because I am interested
> in what they have to say.  I am a member of NAGDU and not GDUI because
> in my experience NAGDU cares more about including their Deafblind
> members.  I'm just not sure if the NFB as a hole does.
>
> I can't go to my local meetings because of the same issues of lack of
> communication and total disinterest in leadership in helping me
> address these issues.
>
> Sometimes the reasons one might choose to attend the other convention
> is because they have other needs which can be better met there,
> unfortunately.
>
> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
> Bristol (retired), Mill'E SD. and Laveau Guide Dog, CGC.
> "Struggle is a never ending process. Freedom is never really won, you
> earn it and win it in every generation."
> -- Coretta Scott King
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