[nagdu] problems with new dog

Wed Apr 21 16:34:17 UTC 2010

Good for you, Cheryl O.!

People have to take responsibility for their own actions - after all, how 
the hell can you see people coming when they just come walking in without 
giving you a chance to leash your dog?

I like the idea of enlisting the help from these people to teach your dog 
that greeting doesn't happen when all four are not on the floor! LOL! One 
important thing - BE CONSISTANT!!!  For the dog, greeting NEVER happens 
until all four feet are on the floor.  That lightbulb will go on in the 
dog's head and she won't jump on people anymore.  Jumping up on people = 
being ignored.

Landon doesn't jump on people but he races around and licks them and 
practically bowls them over in his exuberant welcoming.  My friend, Elinor, 
is nervous of dogs so I take a hold of Landon's collar when she comes over, 
they greet each other, and Landon goes and lies on his bed.

If a worker or Housing Commission inspector comes, I put Landon's leash on 
him and tell them Landon is a guide dog and is safe. Landon is going to be 5 
this coming November but he sure still thinks he's a puppy!

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] problems with new dog

> Good morning everyone,
>
> Thanks to all of you who have given me your suggestions.  Your ideas
> have provided food for thought.
>
> Since our front gate does have a buzzer, those who don't want to deal
> with the dogs can give us warning that they have arrived instead of
> just walking in.  This will give me time to grab the leash and take
> control.  I also told my husband, who was really getting on my case
> about the jumping, that his visitors can take some responsibility for
> themselves by pushing that buzzer.
>
> Thanks to all of you for making me think this through instead of just
> getting upset.
>
>
>
> On 4/20/10, Nicole B. Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>> Ah, yes...dogs are a little too smart sometimes.  They learn very quickly
>> who will let them do what.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] problems with new dog
>>
>>
>>> Yes, I have, and she doesn't jump on those people any more.
>>>
>>> On 4/19/10, Susan Jones <sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Cheryl,
>>>> This is what I would do, and what I have heard trainers suggest.
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Until you can get her behavior under control, back off of the
>>>> freedom.
>>>> Keep her with you on leash as much as possible, and crate her or put 
>>>> her
>>>> on
>>>> tie-down when you need to be doing other things.
>>>> That way, you can catch her when she starts getting into something, and
>>>> avoid trouble.
>>>> Give her a treat when she respons to your NO! and pays attention to 
>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> 2.  Get a couple of friends to help you, who are not shy about giving
>>>> knee
>>>> to chest.
>>>> Have them approach her and when she starts to jump, nip it in the bud.
>>>>
>>>> Work with her until she can greet an approaching person with all four
>>>> feet
>>>> on the ground, and calmly.
>>>>
>>>> I sort of liken this to how you would teach your dog not to drink out 
>>>> of
>>>> the
>>>> toilet by slamming the lid down in his presence.  Then it doesn't look
>>>> like
>>>> it would be so attractive any longer.
>>>>
>>>> I hope these ideas help, and do, please, keep in touch with Seeing Eye;
>>>> they
>>>> may have other suggestions.
>>>> Some of our clicker trainer friends, I'm sure, will be able to suggest
>>>> positive ways to reinforce good manners.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Susan & Rhoda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Cheryl Osborn
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:26 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] problems with new dog
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but this is going to be a long message.
>>>>
>>>> A little background first.  I received my new dog, Inga, this last
>>>> December
>>>> and though she works well in harness, I have been having several
>>>> behavioral
>>>> problems with her when she is out of harness.  She is very puppy-like 
>>>> and
>>>> gets into everything.  She loves to chew up anything.  She is my third
>>>> dog
>>>> from Seeing Eye.  Of course, I expect her to behave as well as my last
>>>> dog.
>>>> <grin>
>>>>
>>>> The Seeing Eye sent a trainer down to work with us about 2 months ago.
>>>>  He brought me a pinch collar so that I could have a little better
>>>> control
>>>> of Inga.  I had explained to him and the Seeing Eye that most of the
>>>> problems I was having were in our home.  Since I have mobility issues,
>>>> the
>>>> pinch collar helped to keep Inga from dragging me around and suddenly
>>>> darting away when I was trying to park her.  There were several times
>>>> that
>>>> she jerked so hard that I landed on my face.  The collar also helps in
>>>> that
>>>> I am unable to give a strong physical correction.  There are many times
>>>> when
>>>> I wonder if the puppy raiser just allowed Inga to do whatever she 
>>>> wanted,
>>>> because her behavior is so bad.  By the way, when not working, she does
>>>> get
>>>> plenty of exercise playing with our Great Pyrinese.
>>>>
>>>> My main concern now is that I cannot keep Inga from jumping on people
>>>> when
>>>> she is not in harness.  When someone comes to visit, especially if they
>>>> are
>>>> shy of dogs, Inga is surely going to jump on them.  This is bad
>>>> behaviour,
>>>> of course, but especially bad when some of our friends are afraid of
>>>> dogs.
>>>> I correct Inga, when I can, but it always seems to happen before I can
>>>> get
>>>> to her.  You see, we have a very large yard, so when people come 
>>>> through
>>>> the
>>>> gate, I am not there to do anything about it.  I have told everyone to
>>>> give
>>>> her a knee in the chest whenever she jumps on them, but those who are 
>>>> shy
>>>> won't do this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheryl in Mexico
>>>> chapalacheryl at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions will be appreciated.
>>>>
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