[nagdu] Matching was Re: PBS program link

cheryl echevarria cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
Sat Apr 24 09:25:55 UTC 2010


GDF does this as well.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:48 PM
Subject: [nagdu] Matching was Re: PBS program link


> At GDB, they start evaluating you when they come to your in home 
> interview.
> Part of the reason for the Juno (trainer holding the harness with no dog)
> walks is to see how you walk.  They try to gage how fast you walk and what
> type of dog you can handle.  I do not know when they actually make the
> decision, but we got to do obedience and heel dogs that were for the next
> class the day before we received our dogs.  If you need a particular type 
> of
> dog, such as one that walks slower, you usually can tell them that.  Also,
> GDB takes your preferences, but I told them that, in the end, it was up to
> them.  If they had a dog that they would fit me well that was not the
> breed/gender that I preferred, I would take it anyways.  I did not have to
> worry, though.  Lexia was top of the list for me--female black lab.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "GARY STEEVES" <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] PBS program link
>
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > Well this leads me to a question which is very relevant  to me around 
> > how
> > do schools do their matching? I'm off to school in I guess about 10 days
> > and I'm curious how they do the match at the school? I know this will
> > change a bit from people's past experiences at different schools but all
> > comments should prove to be interesting.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Gary
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Linda Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:22 am
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] PBS program link
> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >
> >> Yeah, Julie, I saw that comment at the end of the show - missed
> >> the
> >> beginning.  I thought, "Well, if a dog gets you a job -
> >> hey, where's my
> >> job!!" Hahaha!
> >>
> >> It seems that everything about disabled and dogs have this
> >> component of
> >> "AAAAAHHH! How warm and fuzzy!"  And how we disabled have
> >> no lives unless we
> >> are partnered with a dog. They NEVER show us living our lives as
> >> normal
> >> people and that the dogs do enhance what is already there in our
> >> lives. Not
> >> create our lives.  So many times people will tell me that
> >> it's great I have
> >> such a neat "best friend" as if I had no friends other than
> >> Landon. I smile
> >> and tell them that he is my best CANINE friend - to assume I
> >> have best HUMAN
> >> friends!
> >>
> >> This all happens because it's the NON blind or disabled people
> >> who make
> >> these films and NOT us who live with the blindness or
> >> disability.  I wish
> >> our communities had the money to make films about our own lives
> >> from the
> >> viewpoint of a blind or disabled person. Without the warm fuzzy
> >> stuff that
> >> generates money to the programs.
> >>
> >> It all seemed strange with all the people and dogs running
> >> around in that
> >> room.  I saw toddlers running around as well. It seemed
> >> like alot of
> >> distraction there and how could they really make the best
> >> matches of dog and
> >> person?
> >>
> >> I like how we get matched at guide dog school.
> >>
> >> Lyn and Landon
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> >> Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 5:53 AM
> >> Subject: [nagdu] PBS program link
> >>
> >>
> >> > Here's the link to the PBS program
> >> >
> >> > http://video.pbs.org/video/1475527358
> >> >
> >> > When I went to that link the video started playing
> >> automatically.   No
> >> > clue if that's just my settings or if it will do that for everyone.
> >> >
> >> > My thoughts on the program...
> >> > I'm with Tracy, that bit at the beginning about how the dogs
> >> give the
> >> > person their life and happiness was disturbing.  I also
> >> noticed that they
> >> > used, "confined to a wheelchair" which is generally not
> >> accepted among
> >> > disability groups.  I was also very, very not impressed
> >> by a statement
> >> > toward the end of the program about the people not being
> >> normal, then they
> >> > get the dogs and can have a life and a job.
> >> >
> >> > this particular service dog program seems to place a lot of
> >> dogs with
> >> > young children.  The video mentions 5 kids and only one
> >> adult.  It was
> >> > interesting to see how much the parents and other family
> >> members were
> >> > involved in the process.
> >> >
> >> > I liked the trainer, Chris.  He uses positive training
> >> methods, mainly
> >> > luring.  It was really cool to see how he could use eye
> >> movement to cue
> >> > the dog, very useful for nonverbal people.
> >> >
> >> > The program focuses a lot on the emotional aspects of service
> >> dogs.
> >> > Probably 95% of what they talked about were bonding and
> >> partnership
> >> > aspects and very little in actual tasks.
> >> >
> >> > The matching process was very, very different from what is
> >> typical in
> >> > guide dog programs.  It seemed to me that they let all
> >> the dogs and people
> >> > mingle in one big room.  The dogs and people picked each
> >> other.  I'm not
> >> > sure how big the class was, but there were two dog switches,
> >> one during
> >> > class and another a few weeks after returning home.  I
> >> like the concept of
> >> > choosing your own dog, to a point. I don't know that a free
> >> for all
> >> > matching process is the best way to go though.
> >> >
> >> > JMO
> >> > Julie
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