[nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising

[Margo and Arrow]

Dan, also, during the graduate reunion at the seeing eye, services were 
provided including checking one's dog's weight.  it was reported at the 
banquet that across the board, the dogs' weights were great, no complaints.

I agree, Dan, that somehow The Seeing eye's ownership model doesn't cause 
more abusive graduates, so, I fail to understand why some schools feel it 
necessary to act like big Brother, as you put it.

Margo and Arrow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising


> Dan, you're not alone on this one - I don't like Big Brother, either! LOL! 
> So Amen to you on this!
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising
>
>
>> How are you deciding that "people who shouldn't have dogs" might get them
>> and what constitutes your criteria for who should have a dog?
>> So, if people who shouldn't have dogs, in quotes, get them, than wasn't 
>> it
>> the poor judgment of the school rather than a question of ownership?
>> I do believe in total unfettered and unrestricted ownership, though I see
>> that I'm in a minority--smile.
>> Most of us apparently want big brother watching us.
>>
>> A yearly vet report won't stop, for example, the people I myself think
>> shouldn't have dogs, the ones who in my judgment correct the begeezes out 
>> of
>> their dogs.
>> Or those who are yelling at their dogs, that bugged me more than, say, an
>> uncontrolled dog before I had a dog. Now I have a dog and know things
>> happen, but I have a mental check list of people I have met who I think
>> would do the dog and themselves a favor by not having one--smile.
>>
>> Remember, that's my judgment, if a training facility doesn't   think 
>> certain
>> grads should have dogs  then they will need to do better at selecting or
>> training.
>> A blind person is still a person.
>> I love dogs more than I can say, actually, but facts are facts, people 
>> need
>> to be given consideration, blind people too--smile.
>> We're not just people who have been granted a dog and therefore must be
>> watched because the dog is more important than we are and being a blind
>> person with a guide dog, we might and probably will abuse our dogs..
>> If the schools are so sure we will abuse our dogs, then think twice about
>> training them for us.
>>
>> I personally despise slime balls who abuse their dogs, but will a school
>> owning our dogs and subjecting us to yearly check  lists stop that?
>> Evidence suggests that it won't.
>> The Seeing Eye grants ownership, as I understand, I have not, however, 
>> got
>> the impression that more Seeing Eye grads mistreat their dogs than any 
>> other
>> school's grads.
>>
>>
>> Remember not attacking you, just expressing my opinions as you are
>> expressing yours.
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Dan W.
>>
>> -----Or
>>
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