[nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising

[Linda Gwizdak]

Because they can!  That's why we need to get rid of paternalistic behavior 
in these schools and I will NEVER go anywhere but TSE.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising


> Dan, also, during the graduate reunion at the seeing eye, services were 
> provided including checking one's dog's weight.  it was reported at the 
> banquet that across the board, the dogs' weights were great, no 
> complaints.
>
> I agree, Dan, that somehow The Seeing eye's ownership model doesn't cause 
> more abusive graduates, so, I fail to understand why some schools feel it 
> necessary to act like big Brother, as you put it.
>
> Margo and Arrow
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Linda Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising
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>
>> Dan, you're not alone on this one - I don't like Big Brother, either! 
>> LOL! So Amen to you on this!
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL: Puppy raising
>>
>>
>>> How are you deciding that "people who shouldn't have dogs" might get 
>>> them
>>> and what constitutes your criteria for who should have a dog?
>>> So, if people who shouldn't have dogs, in quotes, get them, than wasn't 
>>> it
>>> the poor judgment of the school rather than a question of ownership?
>>> I do believe in total unfettered and unrestricted ownership, though I 
>>> see
>>> that I'm in a minority--smile.
>>> Most of us apparently want big brother watching us.
>>>
>>> A yearly vet report won't stop, for example, the people I myself think
>>> shouldn't have dogs, the ones who in my judgment correct the begeezes 
>>> out of
>>> their dogs.
>>> Or those who are yelling at their dogs, that bugged me more than, say, 
>>> an
>>> uncontrolled dog before I had a dog. Now I have a dog and know things
>>> happen, but I have a mental check list of people I have met who I think
>>> would do the dog and themselves a favor by not having one--smile.
>>>
>>> Remember, that's my judgment, if a training facility doesn't   think 
>>> certain
>>> grads should have dogs  then they will need to do better at selecting or
>>> training.
>>> A blind person is still a person.
>>> I love dogs more than I can say, actually, but facts are facts, people 
>>> need
>>> to be given consideration, blind people too--smile.
>>> We're not just people who have been granted a dog and therefore must be
>>> watched because the dog is more important than we are and being a blind
>>> person with a guide dog, we might and probably will abuse our dogs..
>>> If the schools are so sure we will abuse our dogs, then think twice 
>>> about
>>> training them for us.
>>>
>>> I personally despise slime balls who abuse their dogs, but will a school
>>> owning our dogs and subjecting us to yearly check  lists stop that?
>>> Evidence suggests that it won't.
>>> The Seeing Eye grants ownership, as I understand, I have not, however, 
>>> got
>>> the impression that more Seeing Eye grads mistreat their dogs than any 
>>> other
>>> school's grads.
>>>
>>>
>>> Remember not attacking you, just expressing my opinions as you are
>>> expressing yours.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> Dan W.
>>>
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