[nagdu] Critical blind people

[Tamara Smith-Kinney]

Lyn,

Most of my stupids seem to come from being partial and forgetting not to
look around to see stuff.  Sigh.  I'll get it licked, then I lose more
vision, and the response of my brain seems to be to insist on trying to see
everything while I feel around vaguely not having a clue.  So then I have to
back step and retrain the stupid thing to accept that we're blind now and it
needs to use the *other* senses...

At least I don't get completely hopeless confuddled anymore, but I can't
wait 'til I can just finish gling blind and be done with it! /smile/  I have
a feeling Mitzi feels the same way.  When I remember to ignore whatever may
or not be going on in front of my face, her job is much easier.

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Linda Gwizdak
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:11 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Critical blind people

Hi Dan,
Yes, us partial vision guys have the same problem as you do as a partial 
hearing person. It seems that people can only think in black and white 
without the grey areas!

I also have problems in hearing, especially in noisey areas.  Too many ear 
infections! LOL!

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Critical blind people


> Well, Rox, I give you a lot of credit.
> I suppose I can understand people saying can you hear the fountain and all
> that, but their reactions when I say that I hear it but I don't know where
> it is t is can be rather tiring.
> I'd say that's the most tiring thing for me about getting around myself,
> that you can on such occasions feel rather alone, then my feet start 
> hurting
> from walking around trying to find something--lol.
>
> We can continue this either on or off list, it's up to you.
>
> I would be interested in your methods for achieving consistent "find"
> command results.
> My last doggie, Evan, got very great at it but I worked a lot on it until 
> a
> sort of light bulb went on in his head and he then just knew I needed 
> this.
>
> Results with the Carter Barter are mixed, but it's one day at a time and I
> do love him.
> I generally do think I would benefit from a dog who takes a lot of
> initiative on things like this, but it does seem to me that guide dog
> school  people don't really understand what my situation is.
> All right, GEB and Leader have had both very good programs for deaf-blind
> and they do understand that.
> For someone with hearing limitations, however, no one seems to get it. 
> It's
> either all or nothing. Perhaps that's what partially sighted people go
> through, the all or nothing generalizations, either "you see" or you 
> don't,
> with hearing either you ear or you don't, no in-between.
> I'm not saying that people should automatically know what to do to help, 
> I'm
> saying people are judgmental, but we've already established that--smile.
>
> If you know of people who do get it, schools, trainers, etc. let me know 
> off
> list or on as it's good to know this for the future.
>
> An example, one way a guide dog helps is that, most blind people I know 
> will
> leave a meeting or room by hearing where the door is, people talking, etc.
> That does absolutely nothing for me, even though I may hear them--smile.
>
>
>
> Dan Dan the man and Carter Barter the dog
>
>
>
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