[nagdu] ranting handling skills?

[Tamara Smith-Kinney]

Nimer,

I'm glad I'm not the only one to have that take!  I don't know if that makes
me right, but it's always good to have company!

I forgot to mention that what I have taught Mitzi to do if she has concerns
is to go behind me and let me deal with whatever it is while she is
protected.  Whether she would do this in a full-on vicious dog attack, I
don't know and really hope I never find out.  However, she does alert me and
obey my direction to "get behind me" if something's wiggy and we're worried
about our safety.

Some of that approach on my part comes from history on the ranch with tunnel
vision and night blindness and a sociopathic abuser for a father.  Who
didn't much appreciate defectives in the family!  Guess who got tossed into
out of control situations involving large and often distressed or aggressive
animals?  And even the few dog fights with stranger dogs.  Well, I have more
recent practice as well, stepping between Daisy and Mitzi, although now
their conflicts are formalized and quite civil.  /smile/  Anyway, I'm a bit
too lacking in hesitancy when it comes to stepping into the middle of a
literal hairball, whether it involves teeth or hooves or horns...  So the
get behind me strategy works.  Also, because I lost fear of that sort of
thing a long time ago, I don't have to think to show no fear, which can give
an aggressive predator a bit of a shock.

Still haven't figured out how to deal with aggressive social workers
shielded by a wall of blind kids.  We did use the get behind me strategy
there, though, so were able get out of harm's way.  When I let one of those
same social workers get away with attacking me from behind, I wasn't aware
of that danger or that I wasn't dealing with civilized humans -- in their
bosses, either.  Sigh.  Sorry.  Guess  getting see those two do it someone
else -- a bunch of someone elses -- sparked my latent aggression just a bit.
I need to quit yapping and get to doing!

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Nimer Jaber
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:06 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] ranting handling skills?

Lora,

You got a protective dog. I'm going to have all kind of people
disagreeing with me here, but to me it's a goo dsign that your dog
will lunge and protect you from other dogs. My dog will wag, lick, and
if a dog came too close and started barking, she'd shake and lay down.
That being said, have you tried something like a gentle leader when
you know you're going to be around dogs that he may try to lunge at?

Thanks
Nimer J

On 01/08/2010, Lora <blindhistory at gmail.com> wrote:
> This is my third guide and i am like really what is wrong with my
> handling skills. First two dogs didn't work out.
>
> On 8/1/10, Hope Paulos <hope.paulos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'd immediately contact the school where you got him. Especially if he
>> turned around in harness and was focused on the other dog.
>> Just my opinion.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lora" <blindhistory at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:11 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] ranting handling skills?
>>
>>
>>> Kori has an issue with lounging at dogs. Tonight there was a loose
>>> dog. I told Kori to leave it. The dog came up to us and Kori lounged
>>> and growled at it. I have two two handed corrections for lounging
>>> twice. Theonly thing that got Kori to stop was the other handler
>>> taking their dog. Kori flipped around while I was holding on to the
>>> harness handle and lounged at the dog. I gave him a hop up forward
>>> correction and that didn't work either. Seriously.... sigh
>>>
>>> He also went #2 in the middle of the street after I had just given him
>>> a chance to go.
>>>
>>> Sorry for ranting yet again.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lora
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