[nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: being reported to your school

Tue Aug 3 15:58:28 UTC 2010

isn't that what abuse is... if we liked abuse it wouldn't be abuse would it?

Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
> Totally agree. 
> My problem with Jordan's logic is that she is equating abuse to stuff
> she doesn't like. When I read the post about the guy puking on his dog I
> thought "Did this guy not call her "the morning after" and she's now
> looking for revenge"? 
> Then my thought is "How dare the blind guy go out and drink, oh look, he
> took his dog with him when he did it, I'll say he's abusing it". 
> That whole attitude strikes me as paternalistic. 
> Most people will do dumb things with their dogs not because we have
> dogs, but because we're human. WE'll do the same with our spouses, our
> friends, our kids, our stuff, you name it. 
> Jordan, a good litness test is "If this guy was sighted and took his pet
> dog to an outdoor dog-friendly bar or to just a dog-friendly bar, and
> puked on his dog, would you care?" 
> You are using "That poor puppy" as an excuse to hit the abuse button for
> behavior you don't like. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:36 AM
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> Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [nagdu] being reported to your school
>
> I would agree that throwing up on one's dog is hardly ideal.  However,  
> sometimes stuff happens.  I take my dog to bars when I go.  My dog is  
> there if I drink alcohol.  Granted, I'm at the point in my life, where  
> time and experience has taught me that drinking until one throws up is  
> hardly a good idea, for a number of reasons.  However I don't think  
> taking my dog to the bar and drinking is a crime.  If someone saw my  
> dog at a bar and saw me drinking and having a good time with friends  
> and they accused me of abuse, I'd be pretty upset.
> People are different, they have different lifestyles.  Some dogs don't  
> like bars and the noise does bother them.  If someone had a dog like  
> that, I would hope they'd use their judgement and not take the dog.   
> However if the dog is like mine and doesn't really care, then who's  
> business is it of anyone's to say I should, or should not have my dog  
> at a bar?
> Also if someone threw up on their dog because they were ill, is that  
> still abuse, or is it the drinking plus the vomiting that is the issue?
> I drink, I go to bars.  I live in New Orleans and my dog goes on  
> Bourbon street with me and I have a hard time thinking this is abusive.
>
> My dog gets fed, loved, medical care.  She works has toys, other dog  
> friends and I spend lots of time with her.  Does the fact that someone  
> drinks alcohol with their dog at a bar then negate all of the other  
> things?
> I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm honestly curious.
>
>
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